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Old 2018-12-16, 18:43   #45
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Clearly not. See also CEMPLLA 1.0. (Also most word processing software, email clients, etc.)
Humor is such a subjective thing... YouTube B5 link.

Few "get" B5. Their loss.
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Old 2018-12-16, 18:50   #46
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Clearly not. See also CEMPLLA 1.0. (Also most word processing software, email clients, etc.)
write out the natural numbers numbers, use conditional formatting to label the primes as you go. sieve of Erastothenes.
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Old 2018-12-16, 18:58   #47
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write out the natural numbers numbers, use conditional formatting to label the primes as you go. sieve of Erastothenes.
Not quite sure what you are trying to say here. Do you have something of value to share?

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Old 2018-12-16, 19:24   #48
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Not quite sure what you are trying to say here. Do you have something of value to share?
My point is, you can use softwares in built conditional formating to locate the primes in theory. So it's false to state that it can't be done, just impractically.
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My point is, you can use softwares in built conditional formating to locate the primes in theory. So it's false to state that it can't be done, just impractically.
That's a bit like saying you should try to hold your breath while subjected to a vacuum....

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My point is, you can use softwares in built conditional formating to locate the primes in theory.
That would be you doing the work, though. Not software.
Challenge: write an excel macro that would actually do computations: you open a MP.xlsx file and numbers start showing - then you could say that Excel can be used to find Mersenne primes
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So it's false to state that it can't be done, just impractically.
In that sense everything is capable of doing anything.
"Oxygen is used for discovering new Mersenne primes. Because w/o O2 there would be no life, so there would have been no Mersenne primes."
"Carbon .... /the same/"
These statements are usually referred to as vacuous
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That's a bit like saying you should try to hold your breath while subjected to a vacuum....
Just to share further...

SCUBA divers are taught to never give a puff of air to a "free diver". Why? Because they invariably return to the surface holding their breaths. And then their lungs explode.

We are taught that if we ever have to surface from depth, it's important that we breath out as much gas as we can on the way up. Gasses out-flowing from our blood can be managed later; breathing is relatively more important.
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My point is, you can use softwares in built conditional formating to locate the primes in theory. So it's false to state that it can't be done, just impractically.
Sure, you might prove some big primes eventually, if the run time does not exceed the hardware lifetime. I was tempted to bet a large sum you could not discover a new largest prime that way. I never claimed other, relatively slower and unsuited software couldn't be used to _prove_ a prime. Attempting it with the Sieve of Eratosthenes via software not intended for or optimized for it would be far too slow to have a chance at discovering a new Mersenne prime or new prime of any of many other types. In prime discovery, scaling rules.

Retina posted about discovering, which I responded to.

(I hope at least some got the humor of using CEMPLLA 1.0 as the counterexample.)
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