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2021-09-08, 12:59   #1420
retina
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus "Un-American."
I find it ironic that putting the entire population into the same box as a collective group of "this is what Americans do, if you don't do it then you are un-American" can also be seen as "un-American". LOL.

And who gets to decide what is un-American anyway? Is there a dictator declaring it? That would be un-American! LOL

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2021-09-08, 14:14   #1421
Dr Sardonicus

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 Originally Posted by retina I find it ironic that putting the entire population into the same box as a collective group of "this is what Americans do, if you don't do it then you are un-American" can also be seen as "un-American". LOL.
Ironic indeed. In the case in point, the very same Americans who rail about getting immunized against COVID-19 being an "individual choice" are also following, sheep-like, the liars and demagogues who are denouncing rationality and science as "un-American."

Ironic, too, is that the founders of this nation were very much figures of the Enlightenment - people who saw reason and science as providing ways to benefit mankind. Thomas Jefferson invented an improved plow. Benjamin Franklin mapped the Gulf Stream, did many experiments with electricity, and invented the lightning rod - an invention he provided free to the world, seeing it as too important to try to make money from. Now the order of the day WRT science and reason seems to be "Lghts out."

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 And who gets to decide what is un-American anyway? Is there a dictator declaring it? That would be un-American! LOL
Currently, it is the reich wing shrieking the loudest about what is and who are un-American. Yes, there is a dictator declaring it - the guy who lost the last presidential election. And yes, it is un-American.

Alas, it is becoming increasingly difficult to laugh about it...

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 2021-09-09, 16:55 #1422 Dr Sardonicus     Feb 2017 Nowhere 3·1,669 Posts It seems some folks are saying they would rather die than get vaccinated for COVID. As Ebenezer Scrooge said, If they be like to die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. I would say, hey - ii that's how you want it, that's your right. In order to reinforce your belief, so be it: If you get COVID, no medical attention. No doctors, no scrip meds, no hospital treatment. Meanwhile, it seems there's an addlepated idea among antivaxxers that their "pure" semen will become valuable - like a new bitcoin. It might be worth harvesting their semen just to keep it out of the gene pool...
2021-09-09, 17:13   #1423
retina
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 Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus It might be worth harvesting their semen just to keep it out of the gene pool...
I'd be willing to claim I am unvaccinated just get to get the free harvesting session.

Can I get to choose beforehand which assistant does the deed?

2021-09-09, 20:33   #1424
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by retina I'd be willing to claim I am unvaccinated just get to get the free harvesting session. Can I get to choose beforehand which assistant does the deed?
You have plenty of minions already. Get one of them to do it for you and don't be greedy.

Alternatively, take matters into your own hands.

 2021-09-09, 20:41 #1425 Xyzzy     Aug 2002 5×1,663 Posts Don't want to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle? No problem. Just require a $10M medical insurance policy. Don't want to be vaccinated? No problem. Just have people pay the actual cost for their medical care. Our insurance premiums shouldn't cover willfully obtuse people. Just like people who smoke cigarettes have to pay more. We wish this pandemic had been framed as a "Great War", like WW2. Maybe literally, with an actual declaration of war from congress. We read about people recycling rubber and steel and kids gathering stuff up, and food rationing and all sorts of sacrifices for the greater good. Manufacturers being refitted to make tanks and rifles and stuff like that. Example: https://www.aarp.org/politics-societ...rationing.html Why should this pandemic be different? It is just as deadly. The selfishness we see people display really saddens us. 2021-09-09, 21:07 #1426 chalsall If I May "Chris Halsall" Sep 2002 Barbados 22·47·53 Posts Quote:  Originally Posted by Xyzzy The selfishness we see people display really saddens us. +1. What is even sadder is the selfishness is being encouraged, and then leveraged, by others. 2021-09-09, 22:20 #1427 Uncwilly 6809 > 6502 """"""""""""""""""" Aug 2003 101×103 Posts 2·5,011 Posts Quote:  Originally Posted by Xyzzy Don't want to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle? No problem. Just require a$10M medical insurance policy.
And be an organ donor.

2021-09-09, 22:27   #1428
Dr Sardonicus

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by retina I'd be willing to claim I am unvaccinated just get to get the free harvesting session. Can I get to choose beforehand which assistant does the deed?
I forgot to mention - in order to preserve the value of their donations (by keeping it rare, you see) donors will have to undergo a sterilization procedure immediately afterward. When I said "keep it out of the gene pool," I meant it. But to your question. Hmm, it will be the last experience of its kind, so why not let donors choose their assistants?

People who believe "unvaccinated men will have pure semen that will be valuable" remind me of the scene in Dr. Strangelove in which General Jack D. Ripper is raving about fluoridation being a plot to "sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!"

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 Originally Posted by Xyzzy We wish this pandemic had been framed as a "Great War", like WW2. Maybe literally, with an actual declaration of war from congress. Why should this pandemic be different? It is just as deadly. The selfishness we see people display really saddens us.
Yes, it is bad. I am disgusted to see so many people to whom "the general welfare" (a phrase from the preamble to the Constitution of the United States) isn't even on their radar.

But even worse, I never thought I would live to see one of our major political parties dedicate itself to refusing to deal with a clear and present danger to this country - a contagious and deadly disease. It makes me ashamed of my country.

Alas, it's the anti-vaxxer cult which has adopted the war rhetoric. I've heard pols describing mask and vaccination mandates as worse than slavery. Mandates are also described as a government attack on us. They also claim vaccine mandates violate the Nuremberg Code, and people administering vaccines can be executed. A Maine State Representative compared her Governor to Josef Mengele for adding COVID vaccines to the list of vaccines mandated for health care workers in that state.

Anti-vaxxers may have achieved herd immunity to facts and sense, but, overwhelmingly they're the ones who are dying of COVID. That's the rule with death cults: Adhere today, gone tomorrow...

 2021-09-09, 23:25 #1430 tServo     "Marv" May 2009 near the Tannhäuser Gate 3×223 Posts Constitutionality of vaccine mandates ? Here's an article from Politico as per the title of this post. https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...=pocket-newtab In a few words, there is a strong precedent for vaccine mandates based on a 1904 ruling. Last fiddled with by tServo on 2021-09-09 at 23:25

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