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Old 2008-07-21, 12:13   #1
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Hello to all of you guys,
Is there any of you can help me finding the relationships/patterns of table that I attach below? (file name: puzzle.pdf)
(The table consist of 350 rows and 20 columns, contains of numbers 0-9).
Thank's.
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Old 2008-07-21, 15:20   #2
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Can you give any clues are to what to look for, where to start, etc.

Is this a puzzle where you know the answer and are testing us or do you also NOT know the answer?
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Old 2008-07-21, 16:03   #3
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It's been found that people will see patterns even in random data. Evolutionarily, it has been more advantageous to seem to see patterns that weren't there (e.g., spooky shadows) than to miss seeing patterns that were real (e.g., a predator in the shadows), so that's how our brains work.
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Old 2008-07-22, 11:45   #4
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Hi petrw1 & cheesehead, nice to see you again...
Honestly, I don't know the answer either. I just found that maybe this clues can help?
Assume:
# 1-350 as rows, #1-20 as columns.
Number 5 in row 1, column 2 repeated again in row 2, column 2.
Number 6 in row 1, column 3/4 repeated again in row 2, column 4.
Number 8 in row 1, column 6/8 repeated again in row 2, column 5/8.
Number 7 in row 1, column 9 repeated again in row 2, column 11.
Number 3 in row 1, column 11 repeated again in row 2, column 12.
Number 8 in row 1, column 12 repeated again in row 2, column 9.
Number 9 in row 1, column 14/15 repeated again in row 2, column 16.
Number 4 in row 1, column 19/20 repeated again in row 2, column 17.

Number 8 in row 2, column 5/8 repeated again in row 3, column 8.
Number 7 in row 2, column 11 repeated again in row 3, column 11.
Number 4 in row 2, column 17 repeated again in row 3, column 18.
Number 9 in row 2, column 20 repeated again in row 3, column 20.

Number 8 in row 3 column 8 repeated again in row 4, column 6.
Number 0 in row 3, column 10 repeated again in row 4, column 12.
Number 5 in row 3, column 12 repeated again in row 4, column 10.
Number 2 in row 3, column 13 repeated again in row 4, column 13.
Number 6 in row 3, column 17 repeated again in row 4, column 18.
Number 4 in row 3, column 18 repeated again in row 4, column 20.
Number 5 in row 3, column 19 repeated again in row 4, column 19.

Temporary conclusion:
There's at least one number repeated to next row (if the tables is seen by every four columns), but sometimes there's no repeated numbers at all (such as column 1,2,3,4 row 1 to row 2).
Thx.
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Old 2008-07-22, 23:26   #5
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What do you make of the four blanks on row 165? Is it an error or a clue?
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Old 2008-07-23, 03:01   #6
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What do you make of the four blanks on row 165? Is it an error or a clue?
Perhaps the puzzle is to fill in the missing values?

We have 350 (number of rows)=165*2+20(number of columns). Maybe there's some odd way of sequencing the numbers that exploits this fact, and makes it so the blanks appear at the beginning/end? Just an idea...

Also, in row 274 some of the entries are bolded.
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Old 2008-07-23, 06:27   #7
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Hi wblipp & Kevin,
Some data were missing in row 165, and bolded entries in row 274 mean nothing.
Thx.
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Old 2008-11-20, 14:00   #8
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Now I'd like to post this problem in a different format. I re-numbered and re-arranged the tables like the file that I attach in my last post at: Da Vinci Puzzles forum (name Enigma.xls).
So there are now 284 tables with ten rows (0,1,2,..9) each, which every tables contain of numbers 1 to 40. The problem is how to put the next larger numbers 41,42,43 and so on, in the precise rows for every tables.
Thx.
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