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 2021-09-02, 11:05 #1 Xyzzy     Aug 2002 7×23×53 Posts September 2021
 2021-09-07, 14:07 #2 dg211   Jun 2016 23×3 Posts I'd be interested to see what the best values people can find are. My best solutions so far are 40 and 149.
2021-09-13, 09:57   #3
Dieter

Oct 2017

7×19 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by dg211 I'd be interested to see what the best values people can find are. My best solutions so far are 40 and 149.
That are very good values. I'm happy to have found a 50-solution this morning - too late for being listed.
It's consoling for me that there are not many solvers until 11/09.
I have no code producing a complete solution, but only codes optimizing versions found with pencil and paper.

 2021-09-13, 10:12 #4 dg211   Jun 2016 23×3 Posts Yeah, I think this is one of the toughest puzzles there has been recently. I slightly improved the bonus solution to 147, but I'm still on 40 for the first part.
 2021-09-13, 18:10 #5 Kebbaj     "Kebbaj Reda" May 2018 Casablanca, Morocco 9910 Posts I'm blocked at 54 damage. Normal pencil and paper cannot give a solution easily. I only want to abandoned. So Difficult question!! [8976 "," 4238 "," 8297 "," 4735 "," 3279 "] 31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164 3-2-79-4735897642384735423832793-2798-97-68297473--582-9747354753-89-76 54 damage. This solution does not spoil the challenge, it's blocked at 54.We have to start at the beginning, if we want another winning solution. But it can help! Last fiddled with by Kebbaj on 2021-09-13 at 18:13
 2021-09-13, 18:36 #6 dg211   Jun 2016 23×3 Posts Remember you can use hyphens in both strings. I'm impressed people managed to get solutions that good with pen and paper, I didn't even try that approach because I thought it would be too hard.
2021-09-13, 20:12   #7
Kebbaj

"Kebbaj Reda"
May 2018
Casablanca, Morocco

32·11 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by dg211 Remember you can use hyphens in both strings. I'm impressed people managed to get solutions that good with pen and paper, I didn't even try that approach because I thought it would be too hard.
I am also impressed by the strength of formalizing the question and being able to code it. A question not easy to formalize.
But there, I'am obliged to get help with the calculation.
There are 1680 possible permutations from 2 to 9 for each quadruplet. I leave the 0's and 1's, they don't do a lot of damage.

Congrats, for this impressed solution 40 and 147.

2021-09-14, 05:39   #8
Dieter

Oct 2017

7×19 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Kebbaj I'm blocked at 54 damage. Normal pencil and paper cannot give a solution easily. I only want to abandoned. So Difficult question!! [8976 "," 4238 "," 8297 "," 4735 "," 3279 "] 31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164 3-2-79-4735897642384735423832793-2798-97-68297473--582-9747354753-89-76 54 damage. This solution does not spoil the challenge, it's blocked at 54.We have to start at the beginning, if we want another winning solution. But it can help!
Your last 4735 has changed to 4753 ("Zahlendreher"), but without consequences for the damage.

2021-09-14, 09:49   #9
Kebbaj

"Kebbaj Reda"
May 2018
Casablanca, Morocco

32·11 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Dieter Your last 4735 has changed to 4753 ("Zahlendreher"), but without consequences for the damage.
"Unaufmerksamkeitsfehler" "خطء فني"
Well seen this Permutation typing error without consequences for the damage. Thanks Dieter!
Question:
Can we find less than 54 damage without any pulling on the sequance pi?
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Congrats Dieter, for solving with the manual "to tear out"!

Last fiddled with by Kebbaj on 2021-09-14 at 10:07

 2021-09-14, 14:48 #10 Kebbaj     "Kebbaj Reda" May 2018 Casablanca, Morocco 32×11 Posts I'm stubborn as a mule! Finally, I had score 50, with a lot of damage to my neurons !! Nice Challenge sept 2021. I can go to work now!! Liberation!
2021-09-14, 15:33   #11
kruoli

"Oliver"
Sep 2017
Porta Westfalica, DE

26·19 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Kebbaj "Unaufmerksamkeitsfehler"
Personally, I never heard that word. But as always with German compound words, it is understandable. I'd suggest "Flüchtigkeitsfehler", which of course is slightly different, literally, but more about what you wanted, I think.
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