How to tell mfakto to use IGP?

Rodrigo · 2012-12-05, 18:14

Almost ready to start contributing my new system to GIMPS, but there's one issue I haven't been able to resolve yet: how to make use of the integrated graphics, in addition to the add-in card, for TF. (For the background, see this thread.)

The Intel graphics is enabled in UEFI. The driver is up to date. Windows 7 Device Manager shows that it's working properly as "device 2". Yet mfakto doesn't seem to be recognizing the IGP: if I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 0", it uses the HD 7770. If I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 1", again it goes to the 7770. But if I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 2", it tells me that only 1 device was found and that I "Cannot use device 2 <bad parameter to option -d>."

Any help/hints are welcome!

Rodrigo

kracker · 2012-12-06, 02:21

Not sure if intel HD 4000 has opencl 1.2... but just curious, is it shown in GPU-Z? (both)

swl551 · 2012-12-06, 03:01

When I removed my AMD card one time for service I kicked of mfakto on the IGP (i5-2500k) and the throughput was horrid. Less than 10M/S.

In other words, there won't be any ROI for the power consumed by the IGP.

Look at passmark.com video benchmarks to get an idea of just how SLOW IGP is compared to something like an AMD 7870

Rodrigo · 2012-12-06, 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by kracker

Not sure if intel HD 4000 has opencl 1.2... but just curious, is it shown in GPU-Z? (both)

I just looked and the Intel GPU does show up. Let me know if you need any spec info from GPU-Z.

Huh, the check boxes at the bottom have check marks for OpenCL and Direct Compute 5.0, but they're unchecked for the Intel graphics. FWIW

Rodrigo

kracker · 2012-12-06, 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by swl551

When I removed my AMD card one time for service I kicked of mfakto on the IGP (i5-2500k) and the throughput was horrid. Less than 10M/S.

In other words, there won't be any ROI for the power consumed by the IGP.

Look at passmark.com video benchmarks to get an idea of just how SLOW IGP is compared to something like an AMD 7870

I have a AMD iGPU, (integrated) it has about ~55M/s on it.

EDIT: I think it was using cpu(fallback), not gpu, don't think sandy bridge(gpu) can run mfakto..

Rodrigo · 2012-12-06, 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by swl551

When I removed my AMD card one time for service I kicked of mfakto on the IGP (i5-2500k) and the throughput was horrid. Less than 10M/S.

In other words, there won't be any ROI for the power consumed by the IGP.

Look at passmark.com video benchmarks to get an idea of just how SLOW IGP is compared to something like an AMD 7870

Will do, thanks.

Would the throughput for GIMPS purposes be worse than (say) a CPU, or still better?

Rodrigo

Rodrigo · 2012-12-06, 05:56

Hmm, didn't there use to be an "edit" option to amend your post instead of having to write a separate one?

Anyway, I checked the Passmark.com page for video cards. The Intel HD 400 ranks #338 of 1876 listed. Not that far below the GeForce GT 430, which I use for CUDALucas on another machine.

Rodrigo

P.S. One more thing. Accodring to the OpenCL entry in Wikipedia, the Intel HD 4000 should be able to do OpenCL 1.2.

swl551 · 2012-12-06, 12:39

Try removing your add on card and see if mfakto finds the IGP. If so you can at least determine how well it might run. Like I said for me it ran poorly, but that was Sandy Bridge.

On a 7770 you'd be running 2 or 3 instances of mfakto anyway and adding a third, being the IGP, may slow down your other instances if CPU bottleneck occurs.

I'll try to run both on my PC and see if I can get it to work.

bcp19 · 2012-12-06, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodrigo

Hmm, didn't there use to be an "edit" option to amend your post instead of having to write a separate one?

Anyway, I checked the Passmark.com page for video cards. The Intel HD 400 ranks #338 of 1876 listed. Not that far below the GeForce GT 430, which I use for CUDALucas on another machine.

Rodrigo

P.S. One more thing. Accodring to the OpenCL entry in Wikipedia, the Intel HD 4000 should be able to do OpenCL 1.2.

You can only edit a message for something like the first hour after it was posted.

Rodrigo · 2012-12-06, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcp19

You can only edit a message for something like the first hour after it was posted.

Ah, that explains it -- thanks.

Rodrigo

Rodrigo · 2012-12-06, 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by swl551

Try removing your add on card and see if mfakto finds the IGP. If so you can at least determine how well it might run. Like I said for me it ran poorly, but that was Sandy Bridge.

On a 7770 you'd be running 2 or 3 instances of mfakto anyway and adding a third, being the IGP, may slow down your other instances if CPU bottleneck occurs.

I'll try to run both on my PC and see if I can get it to work.

Let me know how you make out with this test. The PC with the 7770 is brand-new and IIRC it'll void the warranty if I open the case...

Rodrigo

2012-12-05, 18:14	#1
Rodrigo Jun 2010 Pennsylvania 947 Posts	How to tell mfakto to use IGP? Almost ready to start contributing my new system to GIMPS, but there's one issue I haven't been able to resolve yet: how to make use of the integrated graphics, in addition to the add-in card, for TF. (For the background, see this thread.) The Intel graphics is enabled in UEFI. The driver is up to date. Windows 7 Device Manager shows that it's working properly as "device 2". Yet mfakto doesn't seem to be recognizing the IGP: if I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 0", it uses the HD 7770. If I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 1", again it goes to the 7770. But if I type in "mfakto-x64 -d 2", it tells me that only 1 device was found and that I "Cannot use device 2 <bad parameter to option -d>." Any help/hints are welcome! Rodrigo

2012-12-06, 05:56	#7
Rodrigo Jun 2010 Pennsylvania 1110110011₂ Posts	Hmm, didn't there use to be an "edit" option to amend your post instead of having to write a separate one? Anyway, I checked the Passmark.com page for video cards. The Intel HD 400 ranks #338 of 1876 listed. Not that far below the GeForce GT 430, which I use for CUDALucas on another machine. Rodrigo P.S. One more thing. Accodring to the OpenCL entry in Wikipedia, the Intel HD 4000 should be able to do OpenCL 1.2. Last fiddled with by Rodrigo on 2012-12-06 at 06:07 Reason: well there, but my previous posts don't have the edit option

2012-12-06, 12:39	#8
swl551 Aug 2012 New Hampshire 2³×101 Posts	Try removing your add on card and see if mfakto finds the IGP. If so you can at least determine how well it might run. Like I said for me it ran poorly, but that was Sandy Bridge. On a 7770 you'd be running 2 or 3 instances of mfakto anyway and adding a third, being the IGP, may slow down your other instances if CPU bottleneck occurs. I'll try to run both on my PC and see if I can get it to work. Last fiddled with by swl551 on 2012-12-06 at 12:46

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2012-12-06, 02:21	#2
kracker "Mr. Meeseeks" Jan 2012 California, USA 37·59 Posts	Not sure if intel HD 4000 has opencl 1.2... but just curious, is it shown in GPU-Z? (both)

2012-12-06, 03:01	#3
swl551 Aug 2012 New Hampshire 2³·101 Posts	When I removed my AMD card one time for service I kicked of mfakto on the IGP (i5-2500k) and the throughput was horrid. Less than 10M/S. In other words, there won't be any ROI for the power consumed by the IGP. Look at passmark.com video benchmarks to get an idea of just how SLOW IGP is compared to something like an AMD 7870