20120918, 05:41  #1 
Bemusing Prompter
"Danny"
Dec 2002
California
2^{4}·157 Posts 
so who got the $25,000 cut of the $100k EFF prize?
According to the GIMPS press release, George donated $25,000 of the $100k EFF prize to a "mathrelated charity" of his choice as outlined in the GIMPS prize distribution terms. However, the GIMPS press release gives no indication of the recipient. I've searched all the news from October 2009 (when the prize was announced) but could find no mention of any mathrelated group receiving a $25,000 gift.
This gives rise to four possibilities:
To start off, the first scenario seems the least likely. I highly doubt George would go back on his word; it's dishonest and just doesn't fit his character. Similarly, the second scenario also seems extremely unlikely. While GIMPS could qualify as a mathrelated charity, this also doesn't seem like anything George would do. However,many people who make donations do ask to remain anonymous, and I have a feeling this is what may have happened. George said he donated the money to "a" charity, but I think it would be acceptable to donate to more than one in this case. Speaking of which, I believe the following could be considered mathrelated charities:
Out of the six, I think a scholarship organization would be the most likely recipient as they usually receive the least funding. So my guess is that George split the money among several of such organizations and asked not to be named. This could explain why I couldn't find an instance of any group receiving a $25,000 donation (even an anonymous one). Any other guesses? Last fiddled with by ixfd64 on 20120918 at 05:43 
20120918, 05:51  #2 
Aug 2002
8,689 Posts 
Maybe the "Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too"?

20120918, 07:16  #3 
"Jason Goatcher"
Mar 2005
3·7·167 Posts 
I watched the DVD of that movie with a friend and he just DID NOT get the humor. We ended up returning it and doing something else. I never have seen the end of that movie.

20120921, 03:16  #4  
P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
2·53·79 Posts 
Quote:
At the time GIMPS received the $100K EFF award, we had committed to the following expenses: $50K to UCLA math department for the 10M digit prime discovery. $20K ($3333 each) to the 6 previous prime discoveries. $3K to M46 discoverer (this prime was discovered before we had a chance to post new award rules and I strongly felt it should be covered by our new award rules  whatever they might be) $3K to M47 discoverer. ~$1K to cover incorporation expenses and 501c3 filing fees. So we had already "spent" $77K of the $100K, leaving $23K. We were facing the following potential expenses: $5K  $7K for a new server. $1K  $2K for software on a new server. $300  $500 / month for an ISP in case ours got tired of giving us free service (they were grumbling mightily). $3K to fund the next Mersenne prime award. Given these potential expenses, I reluctantly concluded that the only prudent strategy going forward was to designate GIMPS as the mathrelated charity for the $25K. The fact that $56.7K of the $100K went to math related purposes ($50K to UCLA and $6.7K to Curtis Cooper's university) eased my conscious somewhat. Also note that should GIMPS ever shutdown, by law (501c3 law as I understand it) any remaining bank balances must go to math related charities. Fast forward to today. I'm a tightwad. We've procrastinated on investing in a new server  though we can't hold out much longer. Our ISP that was grumbling about charging us going rates, has only recently started charging us a nominal amount. Unfortunately, no one has claimed the next $3K prime award. So essentially we are in the same postion we were 3 years ago. We have approximately $23K in the bank, we need a new server, and we have reserves to cover monthly ISP expenses and prime discovery awards. 

20120921, 18:18  #5 
Bemusing Prompter
"Danny"
Dec 2002
California
2^{4}·157 Posts 
George, that is completely understandable. Running a large DC project can definitely cost a lot of money.
Speaking of which, it's a little disheartening to see that nobody has donated to GIMPS for a long time. I'd certainly pitch in if it wasn't for my own financial situation (I'm the only one in my family with an income right now). Hopefully the discovery of M#48 will get the ball rolling. So keep finding those primes, people! 
20120921, 18:50  #6  
If I May
"Chris Halsall"
Sep 2002
Barbados
2^{2}·5·571 Posts 
Quote:
Personally, I use and have had great success with 1and1 and Rackspace, and there are many other options available which would satisfy your requirements for much less money than you've itemized above. And, to publicly put on the table again, both James and I would be happy to assist implementing PrimeNet V6 on a LAMP stack. Last fiddled with by chalsall on 20120921 at 20:52 Reason: s/happen/happy/ Sigh.... 

20120921, 21:31  #7  
Aug 2010
Kansas
547 Posts 
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20120921, 21:59  #8  
P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
10000010110110_{2} Posts 
Quote:
The rules after 10M were based upon what we felt we could safely fund. This is guesswork as expenses can change, donation amounts unknown, number of primes unknown, etc. We guessed $3K would be fairly safe. (At our present prime finding rate it could have been more ) 

20120922, 00:49  #9 
"Lucan"
Dec 2006
England
2×3×13×83 Posts 

20120922, 08:17  #10 
"Nathan"
Jul 2008
Maryland, USA
5×223 Posts 
What about scrapping the physical server, and running in the cloud? Perhaps one of the major cloud providers would be willing to offer GIMPS reduced rates. This would eliminate the need to maintain hardware and deal with its lifecycle.
George, I read your comment about what happens to the money if GIMPS "shuts down". I truly hope that day, if it must come, is far off in the future. I was introduced to GIMPS in 2002 by one of my math professors (she had us visit the site and we had to find out what the largestknown prime was; at that time it was M13466917). I installed Prime95 on our old PIII 1 GHz and started crunching away (my first exponent was M14941313). Since then I have enjoyed working on the project, the thrill of finishing tests and waiting to see the result, and learning some good mathematics from this forum. This project has also increased my interest in computer performance and has given me enough encouragement to start upgrading my own systems and someday soon, attempt a build from scratch. Even studying the metadata of the project (e.g. how fast we get to milestones, percentage of candidates with a factor, etc.) is interesting, on its own! So I certainly hope that GIMPS is able to keep advancing for a long time to come. I would truly feel bereft if there was no longer a reason to visit this forum, or check the milestones page, or if I didn't get to hear the fan on my Prescott do its impression of a jet engine. Thank you for all of the time and, undoubtedly, all of the money that you have invested in the project. It has brought us years of fun, excitement, and great results. I do believe that Father Mersenne would be proud. 
20120922, 15:55  #11 
Bemusing Prompter
"Danny"
Dec 2002
California
2^{4}·157 Posts 
A little OT: If GIMPS is ever to be shut down, then I hope the only reason for it is that someone finds a formula to easily generate Mersenne primes.
Last fiddled with by ixfd64 on 20120922 at 15:55 
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