mersenneforum.org  

Go Back   mersenneforum.org > Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search > PrimeNet

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2007-06-04, 18:22   #1
petrw1
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
 
petrw1's Avatar
 
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada

107668 Posts
Default GIMPS vs. Primenet Stats

More of an observation than anything, since I understand these two stats come from different sources, but I took the time to compare the TOTAL output from these two sources. They were more different than I expected:

May 28, 2007: http://www.mersenne.org/top.htm (I extracted and summed all files)
June 4, 2007: http://mersenne.org/ips/topproducers.shtml (I extracted and summed the entire file.)

Being only a week apart one would expect they would be close.

This is what I have as simple totals (the first column of totals is from the first URL above):

Entries: ....... 52,139 .......... 75,067
P90 LL Years: 2,346,562.26 .. 2,257,511.63
Exponents: .. 1,332,118 ...... 947,404

All 52,139 entries from the first URL have either P90 Yrs or exponents or both.

For the second URL above, if I exclude entries that have zero P90 Yrs and zero Exponents there are: 37,271 left.

Now, if I assume report 1 includes LL/DC testing AND factoring then the new totals for report 2 would be:
75,067 (now much higher on entries since all of these did LL or DC or Fact.)
2,366,738.63 (much closer on the years)
1,056,631 (still lower on exponents)

The LL/DC total on the Summary reports is 812,841 with another 2,780,397 factored.

Last fiddled with by petrw1 on 2007-06-04 at 18:31 Reason: Added: "Now if I assume ..." to the end
petrw1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-04, 21:47   #2
garo
 
garo's Avatar
 
Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE

ACB16 Posts
Default

The first URL is the more accurate measure of work done. First, many exponents never get reported to Primenet and go to George directly. These obviously don't appear in the second URL. Second, Primenet credits all returned results regardless of whether doublechecking susequently proves the test to be wrong. Third, factoring does not come into the picture because George does not keep track of factoring work.

Last fiddled with by garo on 2007-06-05 at 14:16
garo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-05, 02:38   #3
jasong
 
jasong's Avatar
 
"Jason Goatcher"
Mar 2005

3×7×167 Posts
Default

<-- Smiley face, since Garo probably only sounds harsh.
jasong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-05, 14:16   #4
garo
 
garo's Avatar
 
Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE

32·307 Posts
Default

I don't see how you found my previous post harsh. It was short and to the point. Not harsh.



Edit: Smilies added, since again Garo is so terse it could be misconstrued as harshness.
garo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-05, 19:26   #5
petrw1
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
 
petrw1's Avatar
 
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada

11F616 Posts
Default

I did not sense harshness from Garo.

If URL 1 (George) is considered the reliable source and since it is created the same time as his status report then I would expect the LL + 2*DC total (1,255,643) to equal the total exponents (1,332,118) from his Top Producers details ... or is the difference attiributed to triple+ checks ... mind you, you imply that George does NOT give credit for false tests. (not harsh either)
petrw1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-05, 19:58   #6
jasong
 
jasong's Avatar
 
"Jason Goatcher"
Mar 2005

3·7·167 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by garo View Post
I don't see how you found my previous post harsh. It was short and to the point. Not harsh.



Edit: Smilies added, since again Garo is so terse it could be misconstrued as harshness.
I apologize, you misunderstood me. I'm familiar with the limitations of the printed word and just decided to make a random comment about it. It was meant to be humorous.
jasong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-06, 11:27   #7
garo
 
garo's Avatar
 
Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE

32·307 Posts
Default

petrw1: Hint: TwoLL means at least 2 tests.
yes George does not give credit for incorrect tests in his stats. However, test of unknown correctness are given credit until proven incorrect.

jasong: No offence taken!

Edit: What's with these added smilies? Damn gerbils... getting in places where they have no business being.

Last fiddled with by garo on 2007-06-06 at 11:28
garo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-06, 12:46   #8
Mini-Geek
Account Deleted
 
Mini-Geek's Avatar
 
"Tim Sorbera"
Aug 2006
San Antonio, TX USA

426710 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by garo View Post
Edit: What's with these added smilies? Damn gerbils... getting in places where they have no business being.
Maybe they're trying to make you lose some iteration time each time you want a special smilie...maybe as payment for the extra server load for loading all those animated gifs.
Mini-Geek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-06, 18:48   #9
petrw1
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
 
petrw1's Avatar
 
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada

2×112×19 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by garo View Post
petrw1: Hint: TwoLL means at least 2 tests.
yes George does not give credit for incorrect tests in his stats. However, test of unknown correctness are given credit until proven incorrect.
Would there only be more than 2 tests when it is deemed that one of the first two tests (LL + DC) are invalid, in which case the invalid test would be removed once again getting us back to only "valid" 2 tests per exponent?

And if my surmisal is close to accurate then the only difference between the two totals I refer to would be the tests yet to be validated ... I'm guessing not many?

(p.s. I have no idea what "woot" means but I thought I would use it just for fun)
petrw1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-06, 20:50   #10
jasong
 
jasong's Avatar
 
"Jason Goatcher"
Mar 2005

3·7·167 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by petrw1 View Post
(p.s. I have no idea what "woot" means but I thought I would use it just for fun)
It simply means the person is really feeling enthusiastic about what they're talking about. Approximately equivalent phrases would be,"yes!!!," "That's what I'm talking about!!!," and "Hot damn!!!"

Last fiddled with by jasong on 2007-06-06 at 20:50
jasong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-07, 16:27   #11
garo
 
garo's Avatar
 
Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE

32×307 Posts
Default

ok I will rephrase:
TwoLL means at least 2 valid tests.
garo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PrimeNet APIs to query own stats ET_ PrimeNet 0 2011-12-16 15:15
Detailed user primenet stats Damian PrimeNet 10 2010-03-18 13:19
New stats on PrimeNet! ET_ PrimeNet 18 2008-01-24 01:21
Teams in Primenet Stats garo PrimeNet 1 2006-05-22 19:11
Request for primenet stats reporting Peter Nelson Software 3 2005-10-09 22:17

All times are UTC. The time now is 10:56.

Sun Apr 11 10:56:49 UTC 2021 up 3 days, 5:37, 1 user, load averages: 1.64, 1.51, 1.70

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum has received and complied with 0 (zero) government requests for information.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
A copy of the license is included in the FAQ.