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Old 2021-08-16, 16:34   #1
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Default Debian 11 (Bullseye) released

https://bits.debian.org/2021/08/bullseye-released.html

I'll gradually distro upgrade my boxes over the next few months.
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Old 2021-08-16, 18:11   #2
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I'll gradually distro upgrade my boxes over the next few months.
I've made the decision to standardize on Ubuntu 20.04 (LTS) for all future deployments (and several migrations) for clients.

This is a bit of a "leap" for me, as I've been a RedHat guy since the mid-'90s (and then, later, CentOS). We found it to be much easier to maintain than Slackware (which we started building our infrastructure upon).

But with the current uncertainty around CentOS, I feel it is my "duty of care" to my clients to ensure that whatever I build for them can be easily maintained by others (while I'm off doing other things, and/or get hit by a bus).

My personal policy is one should be able to "spin up" as much "kit" and/or "cloud compute" as they want without paying for the OS. But, at the same time, having professional support available within a few minutes (after paying a few hundred) from multiple providers.

Thoughts on this are welcomed.

P.S. I am saving up a rant for the hell I've encountered (and am still trying to resolve (in my "spare time")) trying to migrate two Wincrows workstation machines (fully paid licenses) to an SSD environment with an upgraded CPU...

P.P.S. I, truly, hate working with M$ software. It is a waste of my (and, I'm sure, many people's) valuable time.
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P.P.S. I, truly, hate working with M$ software. It is a waste of my (and, I'm sure, many people's) valuable time.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
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Old 2021-08-17, 06:12   #4
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Linux noob here, but a very demanding noob.
Quite happy with Ubuntu 20.4.
Of course, I don't do very advanced stuff, like programming, or editing videos, or real time applications, or job-related stuff. I only do mostly mining-related activities at home with it (went Linux because Radeon vii is about double times faster in Linux when mining ETH, compared to windows where the drivers use a lot of memory and the hashrate is very low), and mprime within the CPU. So, installing drivers or different apps, following web tutorials to do this or that, doing silly stuff, playing a silly game (rarely, no time for it), it seems to work very well, with the mining in background or without, with mprime or not, etc., the only difference is the amount of heat produced. Otherwise it seems faster, cleared, and nicer looking than the current win10 crap. Honestly.

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I've made the decision to standardize on Ubuntu 20.04 (LTS) for all future deployments (and several migrations) for clients.

Thoughts on this are welcomed.
I dislike Ubuntu's policy of obstructing access to the hash prompt.
One main reason for logging in as root is to fix an urgent problem.
The more complicated the login procedure is, the bigger the risk
that that problem also stops you logging in at all.
(I know an old version of UNIX with additional security that meant
logging in as root became impossible if the root partition was full,
for example.)
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Old 2021-08-17, 12:52   #6
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Old 2021-08-17, 13:17   #7
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sudo su
Yes, I realize that is used but it is overkill.
You might as well use "sudo sudo su".
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You might as well use "sudo sudo su".
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Old 2021-08-17, 14:05   #9
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The latest Ubuntu LTS or the latest Debian are good choices for a CentOS-style build IMO. I like to use the latest LTS on new builds and not upgrade old builds until EOL, but am only dealing with a handful of separate machines. If a client has many similar machines you may find it easier to upgrade them to the same LTS OS version in lockstep, as a bonus you can optionally do some neat things like update caching.

But for a GIMPS build, say where you flip a coin every time a new GPU generation is released to add it to the build, a rolling release makes more sense.
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sudo su
I prefer "sudo bash" but the end result is much the same.

If you can't login at all, reboot single user or from a live CD and fix from there.

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Old 2021-08-17, 19:58   #11
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Phil Collins - Sussudio
Thanks!!! I needed that! Chair-dancing while I type into consoles...

Will come back and address the "root" access dimension a bit later. I have an SOP that I /think/ is sane, but would welcome peer review.
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