20050915, 20:06  #1 
Sep 2005
5 Posts 
Mersenne.org Site
Hi, George.
I noticed there is a link to a new Wiki on the Mersenne.org website. Looks good. Have you considered deploying a content management system such as Plone or PostNuke for Mersenne.org? Also, I have a question about GIMPS governance. Let's face it, none of us are getting any younger, so I'm going to ask the unthinkable questions. What happens to the project when you die? What happens if you become seriously ill? Who's responsible? Not trying to be morbid or crude, just thinking ahead here. Anyone have any thoughts to add? Tom 
20050915, 21:08  #2 
Aug 2002
20D7_{16} Posts 
I'm not speaking for George here:
I plan to live forever... So far so good! 
20050921, 00:31  #3  
P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
2×3×5×7×37 Posts 
Quote:
new Mersenne results available to an ambitious volunteer to maintain the databases. That would keep it going for quite a while. Even though the source code is available, it would be hard for someone to take over the assembly language code for future upgrades. After GIMPS fades away, in several years computers will be faster and someone will think it is relatively "easy" to find the next Mersenne prime. He'll write a program and sonofGIMPS will be born. 

20050921, 22:04  #4 
Oct 2004
23^{2} Posts 
Unless of course someone can produce a proof that there are a FINITE number of mersenne primes.
(many think there are infinite mersenne primes, but there exists no proof). If we found all the ones that exist, that would bring a conclusion to the project hopefully before any of us die. Of course such is unlikely so is prudent to have a plan to continue. 
20050922, 21:24  #5 
Sep 2005
5 Posts 
GIMPS Foundation?
You know, when Wikipedia began it never imagined the explosive force that it would become on the Internet. So powerful, in fact, they decided to form the Wikimedia Foundation. http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/ The foundations' elected board of directors manages donations and acts as a steering committee for various other projects that spawned from the original Wikipedia.
Should GIMPS also take a similar path? Wikipedia has expanded its offerings to include many others services to Internet users. Theoretically, GIMPS is a supercomputer tasked to search for very large prime numbers. Peter Nelson pointed out the possibility of a mathematical breakthrough which could invalidate the purpose of GIMPS. So why couldn't new software be written to perform other mathematically worthy tasks? We already have a vast pool of resources through the GIMPS community. So why not continue to tap into that resource for other mathematically worthy pursuits? But regardless of whether GIMPS becomes irrelevant, I would hate to see this amazing distributed computing effort dismantled because of poor planning. George, if you are following this post, what are your thoughts on organizing GIMPS as a nonprofit foundation? I'd also like to hear thoughts from other members of the GIMPS community. The Good. The Bad. The Ugly. I'd like to hear from all of you. Am I a nut case? Tom team leader team ekugimps 
20050923, 01:17  #6 
Dec 2003
Hopefully Near M48
6DE_{16} Posts 
Hmm... Why not just appoint a successor to keep GIMPS running in case something bad happens to you, Mr. Woltman?

20050923, 19:56  #7  
Jul 2005
Vaasa, Finland
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20050923, 20:37  #8  
"William"
May 2003
New Haven
23×103 Posts 
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Last fiddled with by wblipp on 20050923 at 20:37 

20050923, 20:41  #9  
Jul 2005
Vaasa, Finland
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20050924, 11:30  #10  
Dec 2003
Hopefully Near M48
2·3·293 Posts 
Quote:
The nth Mersenne number is . Clearly, you can set n equal to any positive integer, and there are obviously infinitely many positive integers. The question is: Are there infinitely many Mersenne primes? That is, could there exist an N such that is always composite for n > N? 

20050924, 17:30  #11  
Jun 2005
Near Beetlegeuse
2^{2}·97 Posts 
Quote:
Looking at Mathworld, here: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MersenneNumber.html It says, a number M_{n} of the form 2^{n}1 is a Mersenne number when n is an integer. It doesn’t say anything about it having to be a positive integer. But by this definition, since 1 is an integer, we get that 2^{1}1 = 0.5 is a Mersenne number, which is clearly wrong. So the conclusion is that jinydu is now officially a better authority on these matters than Mathworld. 

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