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20180131, 23:32  #14 
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Superpermutations
Still can't believe the lowest number of instruction needed to have all permutations of n instructions present in a code isn't well known. 
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\[n^{n! + (n1)! + (n2)! + n3}\] possibilities to check in the best case, it's hard to reduce the options to something reasonable. Googol to the sixth power and all that. 

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I do see ways to cut down the number to search. Because, you can use symmetries picking (a,b) and (b',a') where apostrophies mean reversed permutations, will not change much at the same length, it can in theory reverse the superpermutation.
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\[n^{n! + (n1)! + (n2)! + n3}/2.\] You can do better: reassign the variables so the first one you use is 1, the first one you use other than that is 2, and so on. This cuts it to about \[n^{n! + (n1)! + (n2)! + n3}/n! \approx n^{n! + (n1)! + (n2)!  3}.\] But these numbers are huge, we need to do much, much better. 

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At least we can use derangement math to show as n gets larger about 37% of orderings will have at least 1 permutaion placed correctly.

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. Not sure it wouldn't be solved already, I found a solution for the equation for n=14 just take the coeffcients on 1001 to add to 391 Mod 432 and the coefficient on 432 is 906 mod 1001.
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