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Old 2020-08-12, 13:37   #1002
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In my post I said "He didn't muster out until 1946" so he did 6 years.
So you did. I did not read it correctly. My apologies.
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Old 2020-08-13, 03:15   #1003
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Which doesn't mean that for some generations, it isn't true. :)

I mean, a generation of smartphone-addicted screen-starers, and also the most overweight - at least in the US - in history.

Not that I'm blaming the kids, mind you - greedy corporations worked very hard to feed the various toxic addictions encompassed by the above, and a generation of overprotective "helicopter parents" did the rest.
That doesn't explain why other species, including feral or on measured rations in labs, are also increasingly obese. Something in the water? https://www.livescience.com/10277-ob...e-animals.html
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Old 2020-08-13, 19:45   #1004
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Yesterday, the UK took around 5000 death from its COVID death toll list...



From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
  • 1,009 new cases and 20 new deaths in the United Kingdom. England has removed 5,377 deaths from its time series. fNOTE from the UK Government):
    "On 17 July, the Secretary of State asked Public Health England (PHE) to urgently review the way daily death statistics are currently reported.
    A review into the method used to calculate these figures considered a range of scientific evidence to identify the best time limit to apply between date of test and date of death.
    The new daily measure provides a UK-wide count of deaths under a consistent methodology for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales that has been endorsed by an external review.
    The measure will be based on a 28-day limit between the date of a positive lab-confirmed test and date of death. Deaths that occur more than 28 days after a positive test will not be included in the headline count." [source]
So people dying after hanging more than 4 weeks on an respirator do not count as COVID-deaths anymore?


Congrats Britain!
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Old 2020-08-13, 20:34   #1005
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That doesn't explain why other species, including feral or on measured rations in labs, are also increasingly obese. Something in the water? https://www.livescience.com/10277-ob...e-animals.html
The article does speculate as to possible causes toward the end - if I had to lay odds, I would guess the estrogen-mimicking chemicals humans have flooded the globe with (byproduct of plastic production) might be to blame. More-recent human generations would thus have the following triple whammy at work:

1. Processed food, esp. those loaded with high-fructose corn syrup and other "empty calories";

2. Ever-increasing sedentism;

3. Estrogen-mimicking chemicals.
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Old 2020-08-13, 21:12   #1006
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So people dying after hanging more than 4 weeks on an respirator do not count as COVID-deaths anymore?
In the larger organization that I work for, we had someone hang on for 45 days on a ventilator before dying of COVID.
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Old 2020-08-14, 00:30   #1007
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The article does speculate as to possible causes toward the end - if I had to lay odds, I would guess the estrogen-mimicking chemicals humans have flooded the globe with (byproduct of plastic production) might be to blame. More-recent human generations would thus have the following triple whammy at work:

1. Processed food, esp. those loaded with high-fructose corn syrup and other "empty calories";

2. Ever-increasing sedentism;

3. Estrogen-mimicking chemicals.
WRT #3, No need to mimic, what about estrogen itself and other hormones. This is a common component of birth control pills, for instance. I question whether water treatment plants can completely render them harmless. Also, many homes and cottages have septic tanks which will leave hormones intact.
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This is a common component of birth control pills, for instance. I question whether water treatment plants can completely render them harmless. Also, many homes and cottages have septic tanks which will leave hormones intact.
And so many other chemicals/drugs.

The answer is no and yes. Standard primary and secondary treatment can have almost no effect on those items. Tertiary has little to no effect on them. Advanced treatment and treatment systems for direct reuse (membrane bio reactors, RO, etc.) can have a good chance of clearing a major portion of them out of the water.
I don;t know if the UV exposure in a pond treatment system would help.

Septic tanks will disperse the water component to a leach field. The ground microbes may or may not do anything.

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Old 2020-08-14, 19:53   #1009
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Apparently, the British government has at short notice decreed that anyone travelling to the UK from France or the Netherlands after 4am tomorrow will have to spend 14 days in quarantaine.
This has caught out large numbers of British people who are now breaking off their visits and flying head-over-heels to get back before the deadline.
The night ferry from Hoek van Holland to Harwich, for example, will depart early and sail faster in order to be alongside before 4am.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53782019
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Old 2020-08-15, 00:28   #1010
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Every country in the world needs to impose quarantines, or flat-out refusals, on travelers from the U.S. now. COVID-19 is out of control here and not many seem to care. Now, everybody's fixated on the election in November. Another distraction.

I believe someone above mentioned water. I live by a sizable river and the community water supply comes from there. They put so much chlorine in it now that very few actually drink it. Bottled water flies of store shelves around here. My cat likes the tap water. Perhaps he cannot smell or taste the bleach in it. I do not let him have it now. The amount of dissolved limestone is incredible.

Something, I think about is all the pharmaceuticals in the water. Pain killers, cancer drugs, illegal drugs, and so on. As far as I know, it would take a reverse-osmosis filtration system to catch part or all of it. No many communities can afford such a system. Here, the local utility installed an ultraviolet light device two years ago. That is when the chlorine got really bad.
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Old 2020-08-15, 00:49   #1011
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Another distraction.
"Don't Panic." - Douglas Adams.

Seriously, just manage the situation as best you can. That's all you can actually really do, so focus on that.
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Old 2020-08-15, 08:04   #1012
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My cat likes the tap water. Perhaps he cannot smell or taste the bleach in it.
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I seems that, for as yet unknown reasons, cats like the smell of bleach. A search of "cats bleach" on Internet will return a lot of results...

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