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Old 2020-04-04, 20:54   #507
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You touch it, then touch your face, Boom! You've got it.
If I get it, I get it. I am certainly not going to start worrying about whether I will get it (or have already got it) now.

InshAllah.
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Old 2020-04-04, 21:32   #508
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Pfft ... 200,000 pales in comparison to the 6 million the German army just lost in transit somewhere in Kenya. So perhaps the German government should direc its ire and inquiries a little closer to home.

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Old 2020-04-04, 23:02   #509
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No - your 5) is exactly Science article's "4. Asymptomatic", and airborne is included in "3. Environmental" - note I wrote "e.g. on surfaces" not, "i.e. on surfaces" - though the line there between close-infectee-contact and 'environmental does admittedly blur . And the numbers are early estimates, not carved in stone, my main takeaway was "asymptomatic transmission by various modes is possibly responsible for the majority of transmission", thus people should take appropriate precautions - social-distance, wash hands, avoid touching eyes/nose/mouth with unwashed hands (masks help here), wear a cotton surgical-style earloop mask whenever in an enclosed space with other people where 6'/2m-distancing is difficult to achieve.
#5 is the distinction between never-symptomatic, and not-symptomatic-yet. Which upon rereading I see #1 and #4 make, so you got me there.
#6 is a practical distinction between droplets and dry particles. The sizes, ranges, and filter behavior are different.
There's also indication that as with some other diseases, droplet and dry can originate not only from the respiratory tract, but from feces. "Toilet bowl aerosol" is an unpleasant but necessary phrase.

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Old 2020-04-04, 23:15   #510
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Dramatic reductions of COVID19 in 24h, near eradication in 48h in lab research. In vitro only at this point, so maybe it helps, maybe it doesn't, in actual patients. No doubt some field tests will occur shortly by the "compassionate use" exception allowing patients to volunteer as lab rats.Already FDA approved for human use as an antiparasitic, and supposedly there's already considerable stock of it around too. https://www.breitbart.com/border/202...ay-researchers
Multiple links in the article for those who don't trust Breitbart.

So now there's hydroxychloroquine/ Z-pak, remdesivir in evaluation, favipiravir, and perhaps the additiono of ivermectin to this list: https://www.drugs.com/condition/covi...tml#treatments

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Old 2020-04-04, 23:24   #511
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Pfft ... 200,000 pales in comparison to the 6 million the German army just lost in transit somewhere in Kenya. So perhaps the German government should direc its ire and inquiries a little closer to home.
Kenya Airports Authority (KAA) says it's "Fake News"
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"Our investigation has concluded that there was no cargo of this nature that has passed through JKIA for the last two weeks and no missing cargo has been reported to the authorities," KAA said in a statement.

"We, therefore, wish to inform the public that we are treating this report of alleged disappearance of six million type FFP2 protective masks as fake news and that our cargo section continues with normal operations," the authority went on.
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Old 2020-04-04, 23:31   #512
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If one of the high-ups in the KAA - and such a heist would seem to require involvement of such - was in on the heist, they would of course deny the whole thing. Journalism 101: never take any single source's word for it.
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If one of the high-ups in the KAA - and such a heist would seem to require involvement of such - was in on the heist, they would of course deny the whole thing. Journalism 101: never take any single source's word for it.
If it was a heist. The article you linked to says
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Since the outbreak of the new coronavirus, protective mask business has become a gold mine worldwide. Because of the high demand, the protective gears are traded like rare spices used to be.

Der Spiegel reports: "Insiders therefore suspect that after the deal with the German procurement office, the manufacturer might get a better price for its goods and sell the masks there (in Kenya)."
In any case, it seems Germany hadn't paid for them yet.

It still hasn't been explained why the masks were going through Kenya in the first place.
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Old 2020-04-05, 00:48   #514
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Already FDA approved for human use as an antiparasitic, and supposedly there's already considerable stock of it around too.
Considerable stock, eh? Judging by what's happened with Plaquenil, that will change. People already prescribed Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) for lupus or rheumatoid arthritis are finding it difficult to impossible to get refills.

I recognized the name Ivermectin -- as a heart worm preventative for dogs. It kills the parasites. Therefore, you do not use it if the dog already is afflicted. Dead heart worms in the heart muscle is a Bad Thing.

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Old 2020-04-05, 00:59   #515
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I suddenly remembered seeing a movie shown on TV -- ours was B&W -- about a virus that threatened to cause economic havoc.
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Old 2020-04-05, 11:36   #516
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Old 2020-04-05, 18:46   #517
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How does/did Yemen manage to avoid this thing?

What did they do that made them so special?

Hehe, or maybe the USA designed the virus that way to have no effect on Yemen citizens. Iran should complain about that bit of favouritism.
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