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Old 2018-01-25, 19:44   #1387
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Only if JS is enabled...
LOL... not that again. I mean, you also need a computer and power to run it, but you don't hear the Luddites complaining.
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Old 2018-01-25, 19:52   #1388
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LOL... not that again. I mean, you also need a computer and power to run it, but you don't hear the Luddites complaining.
Yup.
  • Electricity: Good
  • Computers: Good
  • Random code from random people: Not so good.
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Old 2018-01-26, 04:48   #1389
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Actually there is nothing wrong with retinas's suggestion, to direct display of the cofactors if they meet some condition, for example if they "fit the screen" - I just checked and a c90 fits, but a c101 does not (it inserts an additional line, with a single digit on it, when clicked) - so most probably the field size will accommodate a c100. So, the cofactors smaller than a c100 should be displayed without the need of the additional mouse move and click, and the larger one still can be shown like Pxxx (please note there is no dash in the middle, I hate the dash, P-33 looks extremely strange for me, is that a prime with a negative number of digits, or what? And why you don't use dash for Mxxx, if the logic is so? Like say M-757 instead of M757...Grrr... Be constant man, NO DASHES! ) possibly followed by a comment (like "click me!"), as long as there is no indication that the Pxxxx can be clicked...

And of course, if I was silly enough to click a Pxxxxxxxxxxxxx and my screen is filled with billions of meaningless numbers, needing hours of scroll up and down, there is no way to go back, without reloading the page, which takes time... Put a link to the expanded number too, to contract back when clicked... This way, it should be easier, cofactors smaller than c100 start expanded, larger start contracted. The user can flip each of them by clicking it.

hehe... (I know, we always want too much...)
(and don't tell me I can press the "end" and "home" keys on the keyboard, I know )

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Old 2018-01-26, 14:06   #1390
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* cofactors smaller than a c100 should be displayed
* NO DASHES!
* The user can flip each of them by clicking it
* if I was silly enough to click a Pxxxxxxxxxxxxx and my screen is filled
These specific point have been addressed.
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Old 2018-01-27, 04:49   #1391
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You are my man, I knew it!

It really looks much better now.

(Except for retina who can not run JS, hehe... in fact, I don't know if I am running JS either, I think newer browsers have newer tools, covering the same stuff, but more secure, but well, it is not my domain... I am happy with my Firefox).

A small observation tho: (you didn't believe you get out of it so easy, did you?)

When I hover the mouse over the "Pxxx", there is a small question mark getting attached to the tail of the mouse, making my mouse terrible shocked, he scratches itself with the left leg behind right ear, but to no avail, because neither the right click nor the left click does something with that question mark. We expected to click and/or see a help or a tool-tip, or something. It seems just a relic from some older design of the page?

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Old 2018-01-27, 12:17   #1392
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The help-icon-cursor indicates that there's a tooltip available, if you hover over "Pxxx" for a second you should see the tooltip that says "definitely-prime cofactor with xxx decimal digits" (for "PRPyyy" it would replace "definitely" with "probably"). If you think it more annoying than intuitive I can remove the special cursor.
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Old 2018-01-28, 12:32   #1393
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No, do not remove anything. It is totally fine, after a "hard refresh" of the page, the tooltips appear properly. There was no tooltip before, and I remembered I had troubles in the past with hard-refreshing your page. You told me in the past about it. After the right keys pressed, it works well.

We are good here. Thanks a lot.

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Old 2018-02-03, 23:03   #1394
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The manual result interpreter is acting weird:
I reported 16 factors today, in the form of:

Code:
[Fri Feb 02 18:41:11 2018]
M24168631 has a factor: 410953947929229858623 [TF:68:69:mfaktc 0.21 barrett76_mul32_gs]
[Fri Feb 02 18:41:31 2018]
found 1 factor for M24168631 from 2^68 to 2^69 [mfaktc 0.21 barrett76_mul32_gs]
And it interprets the factor correctly, but the second line as no factor found
Like https://www.mersenne.org/report_expo...exp_hi=&full=1

These are the 16 exponents/factors that were affected:
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Manual testing    24203141    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 322306365944920950847 / TF: 68-69    0.3137
Manual testing    24199327    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 389340722021165530103 / TF: 68-69    0.9872
Manual testing    24196499    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 365270435103350185529 / TF: 68-69    0.7598
Manual testing    24196429    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 353847077266678602703 / TF: 68-69    0.6466
Manual testing    24194333    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 458347279139712572209 / TF: 68-69    1.5690
Manual testing    24193019    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 458990510147497392481 / TF: 68-69    1.5741
Manual testing    24191471    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 399696812142252603617 / TF: 68-69    1.0811
Manual testing    24190429    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 559897299892738650617 / TF: 68-69    2.2828
Manual testing    24186199    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 321309301728183128383 / TF: 68-69    0.3028
Manual testing    24184759    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 483223333502840065897 / TF: 68-69    1.7581
Manual testing    24183919    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 402050127300519458249 / TF: 68-69    1.1023
Manual testing    24181133    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 353824296758800018033 / TF: 68-69    0.6467
Manual testing    24171377    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 322419644723461498583 / TF: 68-69    0.3153
Manual testing    24170161    F    2018-02-03 22:48    0.0    Factor: 366937867134385016191 / TF: 68-69    0.7769
Manual testing    24169183    F    2018-02-03 22:47    0.0    Factor: 448904488441510170193 / TF: 68-69    1.4964
Manual testing    24168631    F    2018-02-03 22:47    0.0    Factor: 410953947929229858623 / TF: 68-69    1.1812
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Old 2018-02-04, 05:45   #1395
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The manual result interpreter is acting weird:
I reported 16 factors today, in the form of:

Code:
[Fri Feb 02 18:41:11 2018]
M24168631 has a factor: 410953947929229858623 [TF:68:69:mfaktc 0.21 barrett76_mul32_gs]
[Fri Feb 02 18:41:31 2018]
found 1 factor for M24168631 from 2^68 to 2^69 [mfaktc 0.21 barrett76_mul32_gs]
And it interprets the factor correctly, but the second line as no factor found
What were your expectations? The manual results will parse each line as one result for one test (it ignores the date stamp lines).

The first line has an exponent, a factor, the other info about the bit range and program, all in a format that is parseable.

The 2nd line is meaningless... "found 1 factor for exponent ###" means nothing on it's own. What's the factor? Why are you telling me this? It sounds like whatever program generated that output decided to generate an extra line of useless text. Oh well.
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Old 2018-02-04, 05:50   #1396
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The 2nd line is meaningless... "found 1 factor for exponent ###" means nothing on it's own. What's the factor? Why are you telling me this? It sounds like whatever program generated that output decided to generate an extra line of useless text. Oh well.
It does tell you that the range from 2^68 to 2^69 was completed, so it is not entirely useless.
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Old 2018-02-04, 07:55   #1397
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What were your expectations? The manual results will parse each line as one result for one test (it ignores the date stamp lines).

The first line has an exponent, a factor, the other info about the bit range and program, all in a format that is parseable.

The 2nd line is meaningless... "found 1 factor for exponent ###" means nothing on it's own. What's the factor? Why are you telling me this? It sounds like whatever program generated that output decided to generate an extra line of useless text. Oh well.
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It does tell you that the range from 2^68 to 2^69 was completed, so it is not entirely useless.
In particular: not only was this factor found, but it is definitively the only factor in the range.

PrimeNet does track the distinction, or at least from my years-old memories of TFing it did...
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