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Old 2012-06-08, 08:23   #133
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In what sense? Don't they also just make the probability of being composite "ridiculously low"?
They make it even more ridiculously low. If you're going to waste time, you may as well waste time as productively as possible.
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Old 2012-06-08, 15:26   #134
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A fond farewell

This is going to be my last post in this forum. As soon as I've wrote and posted it, I'm going to leave for good. I've many times thought long and hard if this was in fact a very nice and cool place to hang around and in the light of R. D. Silvermans latest forage I've finally made my decision to leave for good. I've in fact found better places to hang around, where there is a more open mind towards "Ignorants" and "crancks" like me. I know many of you is not at all supporting R. D. Silverman, but the fact that a such irresponsible person as R. D. Silverman can be labeled "productive for the forum" is too much beyond me.

The fact that I'm leaving for good, doesn't mean that the search for the lowest MegaPRP is anyway going to be suspended, however it means that you all have to go to this website to follow the status of the search and a potential publication of a MegaPRP finding. My farewell also means that you have to establish contact to the owner of that website in order to get in touch with me, if you doesn't have my e-mail. It will not help you at all to write me a PM or to make a reply to this post since none of them will be seen or read. So in case anyone feels like jumping at me, go ahead and do so, but just be aware that in a few minutes time, only the browserhistory will witness of my visits to this website, so I'll never see what you write or say.

To all those who helped improve the speed of the search, I can never thank you enough, especially Axn and Ken_G for leading me to use NewPGen, George Woltman for developing the GWNum library, Jean Penne for developing LLR and Rogue et al. for developing and maintaining PFGW. Both LLR and PFGW are just amazing tools when it comes to searching for the lowest MegaPRP.

Last but not least, thank you to those who treated me kindly and friendly, I also bid you a great and fond farewell and wish you the best for your future, whatever it may hold in store for you.

Take care

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Old 2012-06-08, 15:56   #135
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A fond farewell

This is going to be my last post in this forum. As soon as I've wrote and posted it, I'm going to leave for good. I've many times thought long and hard if this was in fact a very nice and cool place to hang around and in the light of R. D. Silvermans latest forage I've finally made my decision to leave for good. I've in fact found better places to hang around, where there is a more open mind towards "Ignorants" and "crancks" like me. I know many of you is not at all supporting R. D. Silverman, but the fact that a such irresponsible person as R. D. Silverman can be labeled "productive for the forum" is too much beyond me.

The fact that I'm leaving for good, doesn't mean that the search for the lowest MegaPRP is anyway going to be suspended, however it means that you all have to go to this website to follow the status of the search and a potential publication of a MegaPRP finding. My farewell also means that you have to establish contact to the owner of that website in order to get in touch with me, if you doesn't have my e-mail. It will not help you at all to write me a PM or to make a reply to this post since none of them will be seen or read. So in case anyone feels like jumping at me, go ahead and do so, but just be aware that in a few minutes time, only the browserhistory will witness of my visits to this website, so I'll never see what you write or say.

To all those who helped improve the speed of the search, I can never thank you enough, especially Axn and Ken_G for leading me to use NewPGen, George Woltman for developing the GWNum library, Jean Penne for developing LLR and Rogue et al. for developing and maintaining PFGW. Both LLR and PFGW are just amazing tools when it comes to searching for the lowest MegaPRP.

Last but not least, thank you to those who treated me kindly and friendly, I also bid you a great and fond farewell and wish you the best for your future, whatever it may hold in store for you.

Take care

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I regret your decision. I like your courage to explore new territories of science. I wish you beautiful results. Don't stop. Bye, bye.
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Old 2012-06-08, 16:17   #136
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A fond farewell

This is going to be my last post in this forum.
Excellent. One less crank with a bad attitude.


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I've in fact found better places to hang around, where there is a more open mind towards "Ignorants" and "crancks" like me.
Intelligent and mature people are willing to take advice from a leading expert... It is YOUR mind that is closed. You want what you want,
and no advice, even from a leading expert, is going to dissuade you.
And you view such advice as "irresponsible", when in fact it is the exact
opposite.

Grow up.


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You are deluded if you think such a result is publishable.
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Old 2012-06-08, 16:39   #137
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Excellent. One less crank with a bad attitude.




Intelligent and mature people are willing to take advice from a leading expert... It is YOUR mind that is closed. You want what you want,
and no advice, even from a leading expert, is going to dissuade you.
And you view such advice as "irresponsible", when in fact it is the exact
opposite.

Grow up.




You are deluded if you think such a result is publishable.


You exceeded all possible standards. Now I know that you will never learn anything. Writing to you anything is futile, since you are unable to see your mistakes and wrongdoings.
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Old 2012-06-08, 17:48   #138
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A fond farewell

This is going to be my last post in this forum. As soon as I've wrote and posted it, I'm going to leave for good.
I'm sorry to see you leave; I wish you luck in your search and will smile when I see the announcement of the smallest megadigit PRP.
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Old 2012-06-08, 17:50   #139
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You are deluded if you think such a result is publishable.
It's definitely publishable; on a slow news day it'll be a nice human-interest story for a local newspaper, you could probably get a half-page spread and a picture. It's much the same sort of thing as having built a model of the Eiffel Tower out of paperclips; find a friendly journalist and hark on the multi-year-quest aspect.

(that is: there are ways of being published other than in the mathematical literature)
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Old 2012-06-08, 17:57   #140
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That's a good one!
But then, why use math for that. It is easier to stick your foot to the gas pedal for the same effect (plus a potential round-sum settlement from a car company!).
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Old 2012-06-08, 20:06   #141
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(that is: there are ways of being published other than in the mathematical literature)
Sure. But that's not what "publish" means when it is used in a forum
devoted to the discussion of mathematics.
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Old 2012-06-08, 20:22   #142
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You are deluded if you think such a result is publishable.
Sorry, Bob, but I think that's ALMOST publishable. There are 48 current Mega-digit primes known, making the discovery of ANY Mega-digit prime notable, much less the fact that it is one with a significance to mathematics (establishing a lower bound for mega-digit primes)
Just my 2 cents...
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Old 2012-06-08, 20:31   #143
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Sorry, Bob, but I think that's ALMOST publishable. There are 48 current Mega-digit primes known, making the discovery of ANY Mega-digit prime notable, much less the fact that it is one with a significance to mathematics (establishing a lower bound for mega-digit primes)
Just my 2 cents...


Fortunately, Silverman will not decide if it is publishable. If he has something to publish he just should try to publish it in the West in the case Silverman is in East and in the East in the case Silverman is in West.
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