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Forum: Factoring 2017-11-26, 23:23
Replies: 17
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Posted By Zeta-Flux
Just saw this thread. Pascal, thank you for your...

Just saw this thread. Pascal, thank you for your kind words about my paper!
Forum: News 2016-01-22, 20:25
Replies: 631
Views: 61,843
Posted By Zeta-Flux
A belated congratulations to all involved! ...

A belated congratulations to all involved!

By the way, is it possible that there are similarly unaccounted for primes in the 17 or bust project, collecting dust somewhere? It has just been way...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-11-07, 16:01
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
I'm sorry you thought that the title of the blog...

I'm sorry you thought that the title of the blog had to do with accepting patriarchy or unrighteous (male) domination. It doesn't. The blog owner is a woman who disputes the worldly idea that women...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-11-07, 06:09
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
I didn't say you weren't. Did you read the...

I didn't say you weren't. Did you read the article I linked too? It might change how you interpret my last sentence.
Forum: Soap Box 2015-11-07, 05:20
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
chappy, I suppose I should post some...

chappy,

I suppose I should post some context, from the LDS position. The following link it to what I believe to be a fair assessment of the policy change from our point of view: Blog post...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-11, 00:15
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
It doesn't mean they are sad about it either (and...

It doesn't mean they are sad about it either (and I don't know I'd call it force when two adults enter it at their own free will).

But my daughter just came by and told me I spend too much time on...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-11, 00:01
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
The "normality" of divorce/separation is...

The "normality" of divorce/separation is certainly an unfortunate consequence of our current societal norms and laws. No argument from me there. But historically it hasn't been the norm, nor need...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-10, 23:33
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
The fact they are no longer together seems to...

The fact they are no longer together seems to belie the claim that it "suits them and their children".
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-07, 00:42
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
My purpose was only to open your eyes to how...

My purpose was only to open your eyes to how others might look at your use of the article, and how oftentimes emotional stories are not really rationally related to any debates we have (but they are...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-06, 20:01
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
That's nice of you to say. But I still have...

That's nice of you to say. But I still have doubts, given what people have ascribed to me earlier in this thread. It gets a little frustrating when people jump to some seriously ridiculous...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-06, 15:28
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Brian, I did think about it. I already guessed...

Brian, I did think about it. I already guessed it had to do with something the original article said. You have clarified it didn't, but you admit the connection is tenuous. That doesn't give me...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-06, 04:16
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
I meant the original article, about the...

I meant the original article, about the polygamist family.
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-06, 02:08
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
only_human, No, I'm not saying that. ...

only_human,

No, I'm not saying that.

Not at all. Being swayed by information is very important.

But being swayed by misleading, incomplete, self-selected, or irrelevant information is not...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-05, 15:55
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Propaganda is such an interesting thing, and it's...

Propaganda is such an interesting thing, and it's something I've been thinking about quite a bit lately. It is really interesting to me how easy it is to sway people to different political causes by...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-02, 03:02
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
only_human, That is a good point, and...

only_human,

That is a good point, and something I have overlooked in the past.

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Brian,

As one of those children whose parents divorced, let me offer my point of view...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-01, 16:56
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Brian, I can see why you would feel this...

Brian,

I can see why you would feel this way. Let me offer some reasons why adultery and other "fault" laws may indeed be beneficial.

1. Divorces do not only impact the marriage partners. ...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-08-01, 05:48
Replies: 99
Views: 4,413
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Sorry, no I didn't mean I would drop out...

Sorry, no I didn't mean I would drop out altogether. I just meant that we seem to have reached the point where we know where we disagree, and why.

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kladner

I do not...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-31, 01:16
Replies: 99
Views: 4,413
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Yup, bad assumption on my part. Having two 18...

Yup, bad assumption on my part. Having two 18 year old (hence adult) female scout leaders take a group of young men on repeated campouts is compromising in my mind, but I guess I'm in the minority...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 13:35
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
First, to be clear I didn't say that accidentally...

First, to be clear I didn't say that accidentally conceiving children was necessarily deleterious. Indeed, I'm sure you've seen movies where a couple discovers the wife is pregnant, to their great...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 13:30
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
only_human, Emphasis added. I agree...

only_human,

Emphasis added.

I agree with you that whether or not people decide to have a religious ceremony or not would be the same. But even you noticed a significant difference--biological...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 12:49
Replies: 99
Views: 4,413
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Just to be clear, so that we are comparing apple...

Just to be clear, so that we are comparing apple to apples, are you saying that teenage girls not related to you have been left in your care overnight on a regular basis? And that you think it a...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 04:20
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
First, I didn't ask what affect the change would...

First, I didn't ask what affect the change would have on you personally. I asked what affect the change would have on society. Do the two unions serve the same social purpose?

Second, we can...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 02:20
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Because marriage, as a social institution, isn't...

Because marriage, as a social institution, isn't only about the commitment of two people. If it were, there would be no need to differentiate.

Try the following thought experiment. Assume that...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-30, 02:13
Replies: 99
Views: 4,413
Posted By Zeta-Flux
I wouldn't trust the situation. I'm assuming...

I wouldn't trust the situation.

I'm assuming you all don't have kids, because for me this is a no-brainer. You don't put kids and adults (even kids and adults you trust) into compromising...
Forum: Soap Box 2015-07-29, 23:13
Replies: 1,648
Views: 68,774
Posted By Zeta-Flux
Right. Sometimes not so unconscious, as is the...

Right. Sometimes not so unconscious, as is the case in China.

Again, there is the issue that children created by these means apparently don't fare as well as those raised by their genetic,...
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