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Xyzzy 2021-10-05 11:58

We got a third COVID shot and a flu shot yesterday.

:mike:

pinhodecarlos 2021-10-05 13:10

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;589522]We got a third COVID shot and a flu shot yesterday.

:mike:[/QUOTE]

Not as a cocktail though (both on the same shot, think I read something about it).

Dr Sardonicus 2021-10-05 13:43

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;589528]Not as a cocktail though (both on the same shot, think I read something about it).[/QUOTE]That is correct. No "mixing and matching" between primary vaccines and boosters in the US. I've read the Moderna booster is authorized, but only for people with compromised immune systems (transplant recipients, people undergoing cancer treatment). The Pfizer vaccine has EUA, but you can't get it unless you had the Pfizer primary vaccine.

J&J just applied for EUA for its booster. The FDA will meet next week to consider whether to give EUA for the Moderna and J&J boosters.

axn 2021-10-05 13:53

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;589531]That is correct. No "mixing and matching" [/QUOTE]
I think he meant combining COVID + flu vaccines into a single "cocktail".

Dr Sardonicus 2021-10-05 14:00

[QUOTE=axn;589534]I think he meant combining COVID + flu vaccines into a single "cocktail".[/QUOTE]You're probably right, and that's also true. COVID vaccines and flu vaccines are separate jabs. My pea brain just never grasped the idea that they might be combined.

pinhodecarlos 2021-10-05 18:12

Here on brexit island they were thinking on a merged combined one (same shot) but…

Batalov 2021-10-06 01:24

The boring part about clinical process is that even if you take two approved drugs and put them together - you would need a new clinical trial. But they definitely plan that to be a mainstream in a couple years.

Or, if a company for example decides to take a pill drug and convert it to a powdered equivalent .... you guessed it -they will have to do another clinical trial.

...but yes, doing two shots (usually in two different arms) - this is already active. One of our friends is eligible so they got both at once (two different arms).

Dr Sardonicus 2021-10-06 01:34

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;589552]Here on brexit island they were thinking on a merged combined one (same shot) but…[/QUOTE]It seems that Moderna and Novavax are working on combination flu shot/COVID boosters.

storm5510 2021-10-17 17:49

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;589531]...I've read the Moderna booster is authorized, but only for people with compromised immune systems (transplant recipients, people undergoing cancer treatment)...[/QUOTE]

If I read correctly, this should be expanded to say, "and anyone age 65 or over." My first two shots were Moderna and I had no side effects. If offered anything different as a booster, I will refuse.

Dr Sardonicus 2021-10-18 15:20

[QUOTE=storm5510;590868]If I read correctly, this should be expanded to say, "and anyone age 65 or over." My first two shots were Moderna and I had no side effects. If offered anything different as a booster, I will refuse.[/QUOTE]The FDA advisory panel has unanimously recommended approval of EUA for the Moderna booster for over-65 and other "vulnerable" groups who got the Moderna vaccine. It seems they also recommended EUA for anyone who got the J&J to get a second shot of J&J.

There is no approval for any "mix and match" booster shots, at least not yet. There's no data yet. Nobody should be offering a booster for a different vaccine than the one you got, at least for the time being.

[b]EDIT[/b] Update:

[url=https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-4e59c84da515da1b2977e6064512f158]US expected to authorize mix-and-match COVID booster shots[/url][quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal regulators are expected to authorize the mixing and matching of COVID-19 booster shots this week in an effort to provide flexibility for those seeking to maintain protection against the coronavirus.

The upcoming announcement by the Food and Drug Administration is likely to come along with authorization for boosters of the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson shots and follows the authorization of a third dose for the Pfizer vaccine for many Americans last month. The move was previewed Tuesday by a U.S. health official familiar with the matter who was not authorized to speak publicly ahead of the announcement.[/quote]

Dr Sardonicus 2021-10-21 15:26

[url=https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-takes-additional-actions-use-booster-dose-covid-19-vaccines]Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Takes Additional Actions on the Use of a Booster Dose for COVID-19 Vaccines[/url]

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration took action to expand the use of a booster dose for COVID-19 vaccines in eligible populations. The agency is amending the emergency use authorizations (EUA) for COVID-19 vaccines to allow for the use of a single booster dose as follows:
[list]The use of a single booster dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine that may be administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series to individuals:[list]65 years of age and older[*]18 through 64 years of age at high risk of severe COVID-19[*]18 through 64 years of age with frequent institutional or occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2[/list][*]The use of a single booster dose of the Janssen (Johnson and Johnson) COVID-19 Vaccine may be administered at least 2 months after completion of the single-dose primary regimen to individuals 18 years of age and older.[*]The use of each of the available COVID-19 vaccines as a heterologous (or "mix and match") booster dose in eligible individuals following completion of primary vaccination with a different available COVID-19 vaccine.[*]To clarify that a single booster dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine may be administered at least 6 months after completion of the primary series to individuals 18 through 64 years of age with frequent institutional or occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2.[/list]


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