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mart_r 2021-06-11 20:00

1[SUP]st[/SUP] shot BioNTech/Pfizer on Tuesday, with no side effects beside a very mild sting in the arm for some hours. (Yes, they took the needle out after the shot :smile:). The medical staff at our workplace distributed the shots, which is very convenient because I don't have to bother with getting appointments and don't have to take half a day off just to go to the doctor.
2[SUP]nd[/SUP] shot due July 20[SUP]th[/SUP].

LaurV 2021-06-12 04:23

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;580590] I would have taken Vlad's impalement if that was all that was around.[/QUOTE]
No, you wouldn't haha. Let him rest in peace.

Coming to the topic, here in Thai there is not much choice for us (farangs) either. Even less choices than Dario's and even those cost money. Lots. Me and swmbo decided to wait till it will become mandatory (like, international traveling, if we need to travel for work or to see relatives).

Uncwilly 2021-06-12 05:06

[QUOTE=LaurV;580748]No, you wouldn't haha. Let him rest in peace.[/QUOTE]Methinks you missed the joke. Vlad(imir Putin)'s impalement [jab] works better than none.

LaurV 2021-06-12 06:43

Haha, didn't know about that meaning :redface:

Dr Sardonicus 2021-06-12 15:55

I think this guy's yet-to-be-invented "universal vaccine" qualifies as "less effective."

[url=]Geert Vanden Bossche Stokes Fear of COVID-19 Vaccine To Promote His Own Flawed 'Solution'[/url][quote]On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter "to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world" asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will "wipe out large parts of our human population." The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a "universal vaccine" that uses the body's innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2.[/quote]As I understand it, the innate immune system can't be "trained" - it doesn't "remember" specific microbes or viruses.

The [i]adaptive[/i] immune system is what makes vaccines as effective as they are.

chalsall 2021-06-14 21:32

Got my second "jab" today.
So, WMBO and I received our second jab today. No negative effects (yet; let's observe what happens over the next 48 to 72 hours).

The process was relatively well managed. Everyone was placed in a large open seating area with chairs regularly sprayed with disinfectant and placed ~1.5m apart. ***EVERYONE*** was wearing a mask.

Unfortunately, they didn't instruct everyone to put their phones into "silent mode"... Ring tones including dogs barking, ducks quacking, popular songs (and at one point, a woman screaming), etc were enjoyed by all.

But that wasn't as bad as the young people I was originally seated beside. Their phones were radiating noise every 20 seconds or so; I assume because they had WhatsApp and/or FaceBook et al apps running, which were telling them that they (and everyone else around them) absolutely *had* to know that someone else was doing something "important" at that instance in time...

Still... Although I had to tolerate many other humans for two hours (I don't do humans in "meat space" well), I'm very thankful. 8-)

Edit_2: Someone ironically, I read [URL=""]this article while waiting for my jab.[/URL] An interesting approach, which those mathematically inclined might enjoy.

Uncwilly 2021-06-14 21:54

[QUOTE=chalsall;580984]The process was relatively well managed. Everyone was placed in a large open seating area with chairs regularly sprayed with disinfectant and placed ~1.5m apart.[/QUOTE]Disinfecting chairs is hygiene kabuki. You don't get C19 (nor much else) through your backside, nor your back. Cleaning your hands on departure is enough. I am ok with it if it help people feel safe enough to come in and get the real protection.

chalsall 2021-06-14 22:12

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;580987]Disinfecting chairs is hygiene kabuki. You don't get C19 (nor much else) through your backside, nor your back.[/QUOTE]

I hear you. Loud and clear.

But there are many who welcome the comfort that this "display" gives. To share, Linda insisted I change out of all my clothes upon our return, to undergo a "hot wash".

I've learnt to simply obey in situations like this. It's often easier than to explain (and then debate) the science (but only when the position errors on the side of caution)... 9-)

mart_r 2021-07-23 18:51

[QUOTE=mart_r;580707]2[SUP]nd[/SUP] shot due July 20[SUP]th[/SUP].[/QUOTE]

Arm was only mildly sore, as is common after other injections, but other than that, no distinctive side effects at all.

Uncwilly 2021-07-23 19:51

If the percentages on the poll, as stands, reflect the population as a whole, I would be much happier about the situation. As is, those nations that have the vax are not at these rates, nor are those that are 'have nots'. (Yes, I know that this does not count those that are delaying or hesitant (not those who are pro-COVID).

lavalamp 2021-07-23 22:03

The NHS UK have allowed me to rebook my 2nd jab for an earlier date, so now it will only be 8 weeks between jabs instead of the 11 it would have been before.

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