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xilman 2016-07-15 20:43

[QUOTE=kladner;438207]Words fail.[/QUOTE]How about "Nice is not nice"?

The lorry came to a halt about 100m from the hotel in which I stayed for a recent Eurocrypt.

firejuggler 2016-07-16 00:04

and turkey is victim ( saved?) by its own military.

kladner 2016-07-16 04:36

[QUOTE=firejuggler;438227]and turkey is victim ( saved?) by its own military.[/QUOTE]
It seems that [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083"]Erdogan has reasserted himself.[/URL]

xilman 2016-07-16 06:29

[QUOTE=firejuggler;438227]and turkey is victim ( saved?) by its own military.[/QUOTE]Coo!

If Bulgaria wanted to get into Turkey, would Greece help?

kladner 2016-07-16 06:39

[QUOTE=xilman;438239]Coo!

If Bulgaria wanted to get into Turkey, would Greece help?[/QUOTE]

There is a traditional animosity with Greece, as illustrated by Cyprus. However, I doubt Greece has anything to spend on adventures, just now. And Bulgaria?!
[SIZE=1][COLOR=DarkOrchid]My irony detector is currently in the shop.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

xilman 2016-07-16 10:43

[QUOTE=kladner;438240][SIZE=1][COLOR=DarkOrchid]My irony detector is currently in the shop.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]You should send your bad pun detector for an overhaul and see if you can get a 2-for-1 deal.

kladner 2016-07-16 15:28

[QUOTE=xilman;438250]You should send your bad pun detector for an overhaul and see if you can get a 2-for-1 deal.[/QUOTE]
Duh! :davieddy:

only_human 2016-07-16 19:22

[QUOTE=kladner;438260]Duh! :davieddy:[/QUOTE]
Don't feel bad. Not only did my mental detector fail to beep on this irony but I actually spent several minutes online reading about reinforced border fencing, migrants, EU-Turkey deals etc.

So, in today's issue of as the wormwood churns, this poor shlub hallucinated patterns on walls. It's funny how the humerus tingles when something unexpectedly strikes from an oblique angle. I think my detector was still dialed down from the Nice incident.

kladner 2016-07-20 22:00

‘Fraud’ Alleged in NYT’s MH-17 Report
 
[QUOTE]An amateur report alleging Russian doctoring of satellite photos on the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 case – a finding embraced by The New York Times – is denounced by a forensic expert as an “outright fraud,”[/QUOTE] [URL="https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/19/fraud-alleged-in-nyts-mh-17-report/"]reports Robert Parry.[/URL]

It has long seemed obvious that the truth of this matter flies in the face of US geopolitics. Failure to publish satellite imagery is only the most glaring indication that the US is pursuing an alternate reality.

xilman 2016-07-21 15:59

Not sure whether this one is better here or in the yes we scan thread.

[URL="https://www.facebook.com/alecmuffett/posts/10154397247308140"]Visiting the US with electronic equipment.[/URL]

I don't expect constitutional rights when entering the US because I'm not a citizen but this article makes interesting reading on what US citizens can expect. TL;DR the same as me.

kladner 2016-07-25 01:33

Will NYT Retract Latest Anti-Russian ‘Fraud’? (pt 2)
 
[URL="https://consortiumnews.com/2016/07/22/will-nyt-retract-latest-anti-russian-fraud/"]More from Robert Parry[/URL] on the Grey Lady's role as a propaganda organ. It is this sort of thinking which seriously worries me about Clinton. (Leave aside my terrors of Trump.) Stoking new conflicts with Russia seems all too welcome an idea for her camp

[QUOTE]In a fresh embarrassment for The New York Times, a photographic forensic expert has debunked a new amateurish, anti-Russian analysis of satellite photos related to the shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014, labeling the work “a fraud.”

Last Saturday, on the eve of the second anniversary of the tragedy that claimed 298 lives, the Times touted the amateur analysis asserting that the Russian government had manipulated two satellite photos that revealed Ukrainian anti-aircraft missiles in eastern Ukraine at the time of the shoot-down.

The clear implication of the [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-flight-17-russia.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FMalaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%2017&action=click&contentCollection=timestopics&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacem"][U]article[/U][/URL] by Andrew E. Kramer was that the Russians were covering up their complicity in shooting down the civilian airliner by allegedly doctoring photos to shift the blame to the Ukrainian military. Beyond citing this analysis by armscontrolwonk.com, Kramer noted that the “citizen journalists” at Bellingcat had reached the same conclusion earlier.
But Kramer and the Times left out that the earlier Bellingcat analysis was thoroughly torn apart by photo-forensic experts including Dr. Neal Krawetz, founder of the FotoForensics digital image analytical tool that Bellingcat had used. Over the past week, Bellingcat has been aggressively pushing the new analysis by armscontrolwonk.com, with which Bellingcat has close relationships.

This past week, Krawetz and other forensic specialists began weighing in on the new analysis and concluding that it suffered the same fundamental errors as the previous analysis, albeit using a different analytical tool. Given Bellingcat’s promotion of this second analysis by a group with links to Bellingcat and its founder Eliot Higgins, Krawetz viewed the two analyses as essentially coming from the same place, Bellingcat.

“Jumping to the wrong conclusion one time can be due to ignorance,” Krawetz explained in a blog post. “However, using a different tool on the same data that yields similar results, and [I]still[/I] jumping to the same wrong conclusion is intentional misrepresentation and deception. It is fraud.”
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