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MisterBitcoin 2021-09-05 17:58

I have got my 2nd shot about 1 month ago, i havent had any major side effects other then feeling very tired for a few days and pain at the injection point. I have got Comirnaty (Biontech / Pfizer).



My mother works in healthcare and might get her 3th shot at the end of the year, while i still think about if its realy worth it. I think it would make more sense to donate doses to nations that lack enough vaccines; to prevent yet another mutation similiar to Delta.

alpertron 2021-09-14 17:03

Today I received my second shot. This time was Moderna. On June 10th I received Sputnik.

chalsall 2021-09-24 21:27

So... An important person in my Universe (who I have not physically interacted with for more than sixteen years) tested positive, and has been hospitalized.

Those who care deeply about this individual don't terribly appreciate the "cold and analytical" statistics being brought forward.

~99.7% survivability is pretty good for those who rely on others to come to their rescue.

I'm very serious about my immediate above.

Uncwilly 2021-09-24 22:11

[QUOTE=chalsall;588629]~99.7% survivability is pretty good for those who rely on others to come to their rescue.[/QUOTE]If the elevator at your local shopping mall had that sort of survivability there would be a great hew and cry. If the crosswalk at the local school had those odds, the street would get shut down for an hour either side of school hours.

In the last month 3 family members of various distance of relations to me have had/have COVID. "B" is too young for the vaccination yet. "D" has immune system / medication issues that has impacted their ability to get vaccinated. "R" is a person over 75 that did get vaccinated. B and D reside together and most likely got it from D's ancestors (not related to me). R travelled with B & D to see family member Z and s/o K. D had the worst set of symptoms. R was able to stay out of the hospital/morgue because the vaccine prepared their immune system. They acknowledge that it saved them.

chalsall 2021-09-24 22:21

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;588632]If the elevator at your local shopping mall had that sort of survivability there would be a great hew and cry. If the crosswalk at the local school had those odds, the street would get shut down for an hour either side of school hours.[/QUOTE]

OK. I hear you. Loud and clear.

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;588632]R was able to stay out of the hospital/morgue because the vaccine prepared their immune system. They acknowledge that it saved them.[/QUOTE]

Copy. I'm actually having to bring Alice and Bob into the thought experiment just to have a standardized framework for the discussions.

kriesel 2021-09-24 22:42

Hoping for a good outcome, Chris.

I recently heard from someone who I've not seen in person for over a year, that despite his wife's expressed concerns, he and the rest of the band got together to practice at someone's home. Well, all 5 instrumentalists and all 5 vocalists got CV19, most had recovered before I heard of it, and one was hospitalized and seems to be recovering also. He'd been vaccinated fully and IIRC the rest had too. He may never hear the end of it from his wife, was how he wrapped up that story. First one I've known personally. With all the variants turning up, and low global vaccination rate creating more, we're in for more of this for a while.

chalsall 2021-09-24 23:10

[QUOTE=kriesel;588635]Hoping for a good outcome, Chris.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=kriesel;588635]With all the variants turning up, and low global vaccination rate creating more, we're in for more of this for a while.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

The saying "Maths are hard" being modeled upon girls pisses me off.

Most of the girls around me are far smarter than the boys. Funny how that works.

Nick 2021-09-25 07:45

[QUOTE=chalsall;588629]An important person in my Universe (who I have not physically interacted with for more than sixteen years) tested positive, and has been hospitalized.[/QUOTE]
We hope they are soon better again.
Several of our family members caught it before there was a vaccine, so here we both know the feeling.
Fortunately, they all recovered completely.

storm5510 2021-09-26 17:05

I'll just toss this into the mix. I had a scheduled appointment with my MD last week for a checkup. I asked him if booster shots will be required. His one-word answer, "Yes." I didn't inquire further as he moved on to other topics.

So, those of us willing get to do this again. Of course, this will give the non-believers and cry-babies something additional to crow about. The great :poop:-hole, a.k.a. Facebook is full of this now. I go there to keep in contact with relatives and past school-mates. It stays so busy that it is nearly always difficult to navigate.

Dr Sardonicus 2021-09-26 22:26

[QUOTE=storm5510;588752]I'll just toss this into the mix. I had a scheduled appointment with my MD last week for a checkup. I asked him if booster shots will be required. His one-word answer, "Yes." I didn't inquire further as he moved on to other topics.
<snip>[/QUOTE]I wonder of the person you asked heard "recommended" when you said "required." I imagine many doctors would [i]recommend[/i] a booster for vaccinated patients who are immunocompromised and possibly those over 65 years old.

AFAIK there isn't anyone - including medical practitioners - [i]requiring[/i] people to get a COVID booster shot.

I [i]have[/i] heard of a couple of doctors who have given patients a choice between getting vaccinated and finding another doctor.

The recent case of Qanon anti-vaxxer Veronica Wolski, who was hospitalized at Amita Resurrection Medical Center for treatment of COVID until she died of the disease, offers IMO a good argument for hospitals refusing to treat those who choose to remain unvaccinated for COVID.

Her co-conspiracists engaged in a campaign of harassment against the hospital and its staff in an effort to coerce them into treating her with ivermectin, contrary to hospital policy. When she died, attorney Lin Wood accused the hospital of "medical murder."

Hospitals and their staffs don't need mobs of yahoos dictating health care decisions to professionals who actually have licenses to practice medicine.

Batalov 2021-09-27 00:21

The CDC made a very poor job of communicating, Some even call it a PR disaster.

Even nurses and doctors at our hospital are all confused. While the booster was announced a month ago internally as nearly a done deal a month ago with only one deadline to pass before starting administering. We were even told - CDC cleared to do two shots in one visit seasonal flu and COV booster. Now all is unclear and surely not required. I already got my flu shot, no need to wait now for both.

The vaccination though [I]per se[/I] is now [B]mandated[/B]* for all healthcare workers (in our state) and the deadline is Sep 30. There is a special paperwork to make your case for exemption, and internal committee is now done reviewing them and appeals too. And then those who are granted exemption will follow some workflows for repositioning if they are in patient-contact roles. They cannot continue in patient-contact roles, by law; they will be given some other internal opportunities. And even then, non-vaccinated folks will continue to be tested twice a week.
The others will get a vaccine. Our baseline is not too bad even before mandate, >70%.
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*Unlike Russia, where my sister is also a [I]real [/I]doctor, in the U.S. I rather can see certain logic in the mandate ruling because it happened only after the vaccines did become fully FDA-approved drugs. They are not given under EUA ("no one is experimenting on you"). Flu+DPT+more shots for example were mandated for decades (and not a surprise mandate - when you sign the contract, you see all those riders attached to it). You don't want flu shots every year? Don't take this job offer then.
I remember that I got a bunch of shots (many are only once 10 yrs by some list) right before I could then enter the job, plus TB, plus a drug test panel. That's another test that not every employer gives you :rolleyes:


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