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xilman 2008-08-22 08:00

[QUOTE=Visu;139629]I thought we already had a Miscellaneous Math Threads. Maybe all posts should go there by default and get voted into the main Math thread (by the moderators?) if enough people think the post has its merits.This will dissuade Dr Silverman from stumbling in by accident.[/QUOTE]Not obviously a bad idea.

Are there enough moderators willing to put in the effort?

I'd help out and Bob certainly should! He's often shown himself willing to help the intelligent but uneducated. If he doesn't flame anything in the MMT and moves out of there anything he considers worthwhile, that sounds like a valuable service to me.

On the other hand, flame wars do provide entertainment for by-standers who are mature enough not to be fazed by them and trolling is a well-established pass-time, one in which I indulge myself every now and again including here. :devil:


Paul

Visu 2008-08-22 08:33

[QUOTE=xilman;139634]Not obviously a bad idea.

Are there enough moderators willing to put in the effort? [/QUOTE]

Well there are moderators indulging in changing the subject heading here

[url]http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=10429[/url]

and elsewhere.

This should keep them gainfully occupied. (Maybe it is less fun but...)

[QUOTE=xilman;139634]

I'd help out and Bob certainly should! He's often shown himself willing to help the intelligent but uneducated. If he doesn't flame anything in the MMT and moves out of there anything he considers worthwhile, that sounds like a valuable service to me.

[/QUOTE]

I am not too sure how many posts will get moved out:smile:


[QUOTE=xilman;139634]

On the other hand, flame wars do provide entertainment for by-standers who are mature enough not to be fazed by them and trolling is a well-established pass-time, one in which I indulge myself every now and again including here. :devil:


Paul[/QUOTE]

To paraphrase Ltc Kilgore ,"I too love the smell of napalm in the morning".

R.D. Silverman 2008-08-22 09:57

[QUOTE=Visu;139627]Strange that someone who demands precision uses terms such as "most(sufficiently)fast-growing" , "Most FASTER GROWING" and "virtually certain" to name a few.[/QUOTE]

Hey moron! Go learn some mathematics. I *defined* what sufficiently
fast growing meant: i.e. sum (1/log(A_i)) *converges*. 'most' is certainly
well defined as is 'virtually certain': go learn some measure theory.
Learn what it means to be a set with asymptotic density 0. Learn
the precise meaning of 'occurs with probability 1'.

R.D. Silverman 2008-08-22 10:14

[QUOTE=cheesehead;139628]... or -- if this is not a classroom then it could, alternatively, be (and, in fact, is) a discussion among not-necessarily-peers of varying abilities and backgrounds -- a public forum with no entrance requirement or threshold.


[/QUOTE]


Wonderful. A forum where the ignorant try to discuss subjects with the
incompetent. It is fair for competent people to ask that such a forum
be labelled as such so that we don't waste our time. There is no
way to know, a priori, whether a post contains meaningful content
until after one has read it and digested its intent. By then, of course,
one has already wasted the effort.....

I think creating such a forum is a terrific idea! But as I proposed,
you should create a separate forum for competent discussion.

If you want the math sub-forum to remain 'one size fits all', then you
can continue to expect flames.

R.D. Silverman 2008-08-22 11:26

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;139626]

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[/QUOTE]


Allow me to add:

(11a) 100 points for posting a 'conjecture' in which it is clear that you have
not bothered to test it yourself via numerical example. Especially if trivial
counter-examples are available.

davieddy 2008-08-22 11:34

[quote=R.D. Silverman;139643]
If you want the math sub-forum to remain 'one size fits all', then you
can continue to expect flames.[/quote]
As has already been pointed out, there is already a
"Miscellaneous Math" forum.
This "Math" forum is under the major heading of "GIMPS".
"Case Law" needs to be applied to arrive at what the boundaries are
in practice.
For what it's worth, I think the OP's "Are all Hungarians sarcastic morons?"
was contrary to the good spirit that makes the whole forum enjoyable.
However justified RDS's retort was, it was simply typical of the man.

David

retina 2008-08-22 11:35

I can't wait for the competition to see who can score the most on the RDS crank-o-meter.

Is it possible to score maximum with just one posting?
Is it possible to score multiple times for one list item in one posting (thus making any maximum potentially infinite)?

Mini-Geek 2008-08-22 12:10

[quote=R.D. Silverman;139544] I am afraid that YOUR original
question shows that [B]you [/B] are the moron[/quote]
[quote=Mini-Geek;139592]any time he posts, it's just to insult someone[/quote]
[quote=R.D. Silverman;139618]I am about to pour gas on the fire. I don't think that you are a moron.
I think that you are an idiot trying to become a moron.

I case you did not notice (and clearly you did not), I was [B]DEFENDING[/B]
someone who the O.P. called a moron.

You clearly can not read.[/quote]
I never said you called the OP a moron, I said you only post to insult someone, such as both of your above posts I quoted. And yes, actually, you did call the OP a moron, in case you forgot already.
Let's look at the timeline of events:[LIST=1][*]OP posts about rare primes[*]Hungarian says every prime is rare by some definiton[*]OP says Hungarian is a sarcastic moron[*][other discussion][*]You say OP is a moron for calling the Hungarian a sarcastic moron[/LIST]See? Scroll up to refresh your memory with the precise wordings, if you wish...

R.D. Silverman 2008-08-22 12:27

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;139651]I never said you called the OP a moron, I said you only post to insult someone, ..[/QUOTE]

They insult themselves everytime they mimic the village idiot by
spouting ignorant gibberish in a public forum. I only identify
them as such.

davieddy 2008-08-22 12:28

"Other discussion" being a helpful link, thankfully greeted by OP
and Ernst's attempt at dousing the flames.
Then a very conciliatory and constructive post from Jens.

Now enter RDS with flame gun blazing.

xilman 2008-08-22 13:20

[QUOTE=davieddy;139654]"Other discussion" being a helpful link, thankfully greeted by OP
and Ernst's attempt at dousing the flames.
Then a very conciliatory and constructive post from Jens.

Now enter RDS with flame gun blazing.[/QUOTE][b]Ok, everybody. I enjoy a flame war at least as much as anyone else but this one has gone on long enough.[/b]

Either drop the "moron"-slinging and the "you did it first --- no you did" ping pong or I'll lock the thread.

We've already had a concrete suggestion about how to improve the environment for all concerned.

Paul


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