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chris2be8 2022-05-17 16:10

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;605987]
How many may have died of other things, with COVID as a contributing factor, may never be known. How many others may have died of unrelated causes, for lack of timely medical attention due to the strain on resources caused by COVID, may never be known.
[/QUOTE]

The best guess for a country is the number of excess deaths over the number that would normally have occurred over the relevant time period. That doesn't depend on how much testing was done. It's basically deaths from COVID (but not deaths with COVID) plus deaths as a result of COVID from load on health care etc.

It only requires a country to record deaths reasonably accurately. And not fudge the figures for propaganda (yes China, I'm referring to you).

mart_r 2022-05-17 16:48

[QUOTE=retina;605983]According to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data]Wikipedia[/url], North Korea has a single case of Covid reported. So yay for NK, right, doing so well.

But, wait. they are also reporting 56 deaths!

Ermm, how does that even work? :confused: One case managed to kill 56 others without passing it on, and not kill themselves. Amazing.[/QUOTE]

Been following the news about Covid in NK quite closely. Since the first official case reported Thursday last week, it seems to spread like crazy.
I'm suspecting that it's been there for quite a while, only now it became worse enough that they are willing to ask for help.

I'm also envisioning China's strategy having extreme side effects we can hardly even foresee at the moment.

retina 2022-05-17 20:01

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;605987]COVID has killed a million people here in the good ol' USA (official cause of death as listed on death certificates).[/QUOTE]USA is number 20 on the list for death rate.[code] Deaths ppm
01 213013 6385 Peru
02 37059 5373 Bulgaria
03 15781 4836 Bosnia and Herzegovina
04 46343 4810 Hungary
05 9291 4461 North Macedonia
06 2719 4329 Montenegro
07 16811 4224 Georgia
08 15942 3906 Croatia
09 40256 3754 Czech Republic
10 20050 3679 Slovakia
11 65612 3430 Romania
12 9129 3394 Lithuania
13 115 3381 San Marino
14 6625 3187 Slovenia
15 665216 3109 Brazil
16 5803 3108 Latvia
17 116207 3075 Poland
18 102 3028 Gibraltar
19 57725 3005 Chile
20 999842 3003 United States[/code]The WP page is a little bit behind, it has yet to post the 1M figure.

retina 2022-05-17 20:13

[QUOTE=retina;605983]One case managed to kill 56 others without passing it on, and not kill themselves. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Oh. A deep flaw in my logic there.

I suppose the single case could have also died, So 55 killed + the originator.

So now I understand it. NK is doing contact tracing, and eliminating all the contacts.

Dr Sardonicus 2022-05-18 11:25

The Great Successor convened an emergency meeting of the Politburo. He screamed at them all for bungling the situation, and ordered them to do better.

But they were unable to comply, because they were too busy being shot.

Dr Sardonicus 2022-05-18 13:26

[QUOTE=chris2be8;605995]The best guess for a country is the number of excess deaths over the number that would normally have occurred over the relevant time period. That doesn't depend on how much testing was done. It's basically deaths from COVID (but not deaths with COVID) plus deaths as a result of COVID from load on health care etc.

It only requires a country to record deaths reasonably accurately. And not fudge the figures for propaganda (yes China, I'm referring to you).[/QUOTE]The BBC has an article on excess deaths, etc. since COVID showed up [url=https://www.bbc.com/news/61333847]here[/url].

Uncwilly 2022-05-18 13:36

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;606044]The BBC has an article on excess deaths, etc. since COVID showed up [url=https://www.bbc.com/news/61333847]here[/url].[/QUOTE]That is what the graphs that I was posting were based on.

retina 2022-05-20 14:29

Curiously NK is now reporting 6 deaths, and the same single case.

So 50 people have been brought back from the dead. I never knew NK had such an amazing ability. Maybe next week it will be zero deaths.

Uncwilly 2022-05-20 15:04

And we have seen pictures of KJU with a mask on.
They did refuse millions of doses of the vaccine from COVAX.


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